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re: Can someone tell me why people are freaking out over the sale of public land?
Posted on 7/10/25 at 12:00 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Posted on 7/10/25 at 12:00 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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kay so why is the Trump admin selling the public land?
Selling assets to,pay down Debt, like any good business should do at times ….just don’t sell to China
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Posted on 7/10/25 at 12:17 pm to mylsuhat
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It's good to have wild places that you are welcome to go to at any time and be free.
Oh rly? Like exercising grazing rights? Mineral exploration? You know what ANWR is? Frozen tundra, all above the Arctic Circle. Why's the government need to "own" it? It didn't exist prior to Clinton. Is anyone allowed to build a pipeline across that (which the moose love because it's warm?)
You simpletons continue, continue, and continue to make this some BS argument like they're trying to sell the Gettysburg tourist center and license the side of Yosemite to show Coca Cola ads.
I've posted charts on how the majority of many states, especially western states, are owned by the feds for ... reasons. But whine about your favorite fishing spot and prairie where you navel gaze on your way to Sturgis to pretend like you're in touch with the outdoors and your wild spirit on an iron horse. Or something.
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sells assets for less than pennies of said debt
This is one of the shittiest excuses to maintain government control of vast regions of states because it hurts your feelz. Sell it to China? Nah, don't need to. Maybe someone wants to build the equivalent of Cinco Ranch for private hunting in Idaho, preserving the landscape and wildlife for rich Asians. You don't want to sell it for cheap, but you're willing to let the government not let people use it, or change the way it can be used, based on the administration in power. Mmm kay. Start a thread on housing prices being too damned high while you're at it.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 12:26 pm to LemmyLives
quote:No, you pea brain frick, just because your fat arse calls a trip to walmart an excursion does not mean everyone else feels the same way
You simpletons continue, continue, and continue to make this some BS argument like they're trying to sell the Gettysburg tourist center and license the side of Yosemite to show Coca Cola ads.
quote:None of these things mean that you (unlikely) or I can't go and utilize the resource at the same time
Like exercising grazing rights? Mineral exploration? You know what ANWR is? Frozen tundra, all above the Arctic Circle.
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But whine about your favorite fishing spot and prairie where you navel gaze on your way to Sturgis to pretend like you're in touch with the outdoors and your wild spirit on an iron horse
What?
Sorry a biker cucked you and took your wife but I have spent 0.0 seconds of my life on a motorcycle. Passed the Sturgis exit once en route to Eastern Wyoming on an Antelope and Mule Deer hunt which took place entirely on Federally owned land (amidst grazing cattle and oil operations :GASP: )
Posted on 7/10/25 at 12:30 pm to Tandemjay
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Return it to the states, let the people decide what to do with it.
No. That's how you get Texas. We do not want the country to look like Texas.
It's fine like it is now. The only thing that needs addressing is improving access to public land so the public can actually use it.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 12:40 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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What’s this all about? Are they trying to sell out national parks?
In the grand scheme of things it isn't a huge deal. When it clearly was thrown into an omnibus bill with buyers, with likely ties to the politicians creating the bill, already lined up......it is no good. There was no transparency to the process, and almost certainly involved some kickbacks and selective contracting.
Do it right or don't do it.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 12:43 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Because public lands should be preserved for public benefit. It’s one of America’s best ideas:’National parks. Wildlife refuges, etc.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 12:49 pm to VOR
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Because public lands should be preserved for public benefit. It’s one of America’s best ideas:’National parks. Wildlife refuges, etc.
What if a country that spends itself into oblivion on the ridiculous and frivolous can't afford to own all of its public lands?
Posted on 7/10/25 at 12:56 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
The land being sold is BLM and National Forest Service. It amounts to about .5% of their combined holdings. All land has to be near or adjacent to a population center (thus the infrastructure and housing part). The bill specifically exempts national parks, national monuments, and designated wilderness areas from being sold.
It is a whole lot of nothing being pushed by leftists groups that would protest a Republican for saying the sky is blue.
It is a whole lot of nothing being pushed by leftists groups that would protest a Republican for saying the sky is blue.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 1:12 pm to David_DJS
quote:the stop the fricking spending. Spending is the problem and the solution.
What if a country that spends itself into oblivion on the ridiculous and frivolous can't afford to own all of its public lands?
quote:WRONG
It is a whole lot of nothing being pushed by leftists groups that would protest a Republican for saying the sky is blue.
Again, just because it SEEMS useless to you does not mean it is useless to everyone
Posted on 7/10/25 at 1:23 pm to BigBinBR
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My problem with the fed selling public land is that if they don't need/want it anymore, the the land should go back to the states.
"Bsck to the states?"
Outside of the 13 colonies, it belonged to the Feds. The vast majority of federal owned land is in the west.
There is a proposal to make some federal land available to build houses on. I think the local authorities would be heavily involved in any sales and subsequent decisions. Despite liberal rumors to the contrary, it would not involve national park land.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 1:34 pm to SpotCheckBilly
I truly think yall would be shocked to know how many conservatives are massively anti-public land sales
Posted on 7/10/25 at 1:38 pm to mylsuhat
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the stop the fricking spending. Spending is the problem and the solution.
We don't seem to be capable of doing that. We have a runaway fedgov and the people are voting for runaway spending and this is what we get for that - gotta sell off assets, just like any person/organization would have to do.
For the record, I'm with you on spending but apparently you/I are a distinct minority in this country.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 1:38 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Some people would like the opportunity to race across the countryside and place a stake in ground to claim forty acres, build a cabin, grow a vegetable crop, raise some livestock.
If nations, companies, and billionaires buy up all of the land, the American dream of the frontier for the average American is 100% dead.
If nations, companies, and billionaires buy up all of the land, the American dream of the frontier for the average American is 100% dead.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 1:40 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Short answer - I'd rather land stay undeveloped rather than get turned into urban crap.
This. We don't need to set the precedent that our land is for sale to outsiders.
Stop developing land. We have PLENTY to work with in this big arse place.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 1:42 pm to David_DJS
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We don't seem to be capable of doing that. We have a runaway fedgov and the people are voting for runaway spending and this is what we get for that - gotta sell off assets, just like any person/organization would have to do.
I seriously doubt the rationale for selling these assets has jack shite to do with fiscal responsibility. How much money are we talking about?
Posted on 7/10/25 at 1:43 pm to mylsuhat
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stop the fricking spending. Spending is the problem and the solution
Posted on 7/10/25 at 1:45 pm to m2pro
We don't have a housing crisis either. We have a safe housing crisis. Clean up all the crime ridden urban and suburban shite holes across this country and we'd have middle and lower class housing available for everyone plus some.
Posted on 7/10/25 at 1:46 pm to Wtodd
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Bc Chiner man is asshoe and I don't want him near out military bases or growing anything......oh yeah I don't want any foreigner owning 'Merica
Nor any billionaire for that matter that already owns hundreds of thousands of acres. I’m all for the land remaining available for regular folks to enjoy.
This post was edited on 7/10/25 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 7/10/25 at 1:50 pm to Flats
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How much money are we talking about?
A drop in the bucket.
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I seriously doubt the rationale for selling these assets has jack shite to do with fiscal responsibility.
The rationale will probably be unveiled when we see which ready-for-resort public lands are sold off.
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