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re: Can someone explain in detail what is “Climate Change” and what is the proper climate?

Posted on 4/25/22 at 5:58 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/25/22 at 5:58 pm to



Climate Change:














Not Climate Change:


















Posted by NOLAVOL16
Member since Jan 2022
898 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 6:57 pm to
Climate Change is any fluctuation in temp or weather that is deemed bad.

The proper climate is whatever the temperature was globally at a point in time ~120 years ago(measured to the nearest tenth of a degree with super accurate 1800’s thermometers). The other multiple billion years of history are irrelevant.
Posted by Tbonepatron
Member since Aug 2013
8461 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 6:59 pm to
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what is the proper climate?


68 degrees, 5 - 7 mph breeze, 45% humidity, mostly sunny during the day.

45 degrees, 3 - 5 mph breeze, 3/4 moon at night.
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
5332 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 7:14 pm to
I saw this on another website, so I copied them and have asked a few warmist to answer these:

quote:

1. Define the “correct” temperature range for the planet.

2. Define the “correct” humidity range for the planet.

3. Define the “correct” mean sea level for the planet.

4. Define the “correct” amount of precipitation for the planet.

5. Define the “correct” makeup of the atmosphere.

6. Define the “correct” amount of sea ice at the N/S poles.

7. Define/explain past glaciation and subsequent warming without any input from humans.


Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
4279 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 7:17 pm to
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I’ve yet to hear anyone explain in detail what climate change is


It's a measured change in the climate, like it's in the name homie.

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and then more importantly what climate can we expect if hydrocarbons/carbon dioxide are reduced to some arbitrary safe level these climate alarmists are recommending?


It's too late, we can't hit those goals, and even if we d the climate will likely keep changing for some time afterwards. Luckily those emissions are gonna fix themselves in about 40 years or so. Glad i don't have kids.
Posted by Allister Fiend
Member since Jan 2016
993 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 7:27 pm to
The mammoths tried protesting many years ago but the jaguars and their rainforest ilk told them to f off.

All kidding aside climate change and sea levels are cyclical. If it wasn’t someone needs to explain how those whale fossils ended up in the Saharan desert.
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
2612 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 7:40 pm to
What do you think happens by 40 years that leads you to make this statement?
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
Member since Aug 2015
10667 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 7:40 pm to
Climate change is something that does not apply to China, India or Russia. It only affects the US and it is stopped in part by halting oil production and making light bulbs more expensive.
Posted by Gings5
Member since Jul 2016
10766 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 7:43 pm to
It’s an arbitrary question/topic with no definitive solution they can control people with so it’ll never end.
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
4279 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 7:44 pm to
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What do you think happens by 40 years that leads you to make this statement?



Based on current consumption, oil will be mostly gone and exorbitantly expensive.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62465 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 8:10 pm to
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Based on current consumption, oil will be mostly gone and exorbitantly expensive.
And how long have you been a petrogrologist?
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11817 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 8:17 pm to
Peak oil round 2!

Are we going to run out of land for agriculture because the populations growing too large as well?
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
4279 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 8:19 pm to
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Peak oil round 2!

Are we going to run out of land for agriculture because the populations growing too large as well?



Peak oil was never a reference to running out.

LINK

quote:

Peak oil is the moment at which extraction of petroleum reaches a rate greater than that at any time in the past



Time for your oatmeal.

Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
4279 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 8:20 pm to
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And how long have you been a petrogrologist?


I'm guessing 1 year longer than you.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11817 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 8:27 pm to
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Peak oil is the moment at which extraction of petroleum reaches a rate greater than that at any time in the past


Wow you’re a good little hack. You omitted the part of the theory that talks about reserve depletion. Malthusian freak
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
47580 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 8:28 pm to
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Can someone explain in detail what is “Climate Change”


Another Marxist grift, just like BLM and #MeToo
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
4279 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 8:30 pm to
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Wow you’re a good little hack. You omitted the part of the theory that talks about reserve depletion. Malthusian freak


Why else would production peak?


I suppose you think it's an infinite resource that the earth can conjure up in a few minutes. Thermodynamics be damned!
This post was edited on 4/25/22 at 8:34 pm
Posted by UAinSOUTHAL
Mobile,AL
Member since Dec 2012
5169 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 8:46 pm to
They can’t explain in detail because that would expose the lie. Climate has been changing on this planet for eons. It will always be changing for all time reguardless of what we do. Humans simply can’t change something like that on a planetary scale. Things like magnetic fields and solar dynamics control the climate.
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
8106 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 8:59 pm to
LINK

Forbes Link

We actually have Russians and Ukrainians working together in this story of Abiotic Oil.


Endless Oil?
Robert LangrethForbes Staff
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Nov 13, 2008,06:00pm EST
This article is more than 10 years old.
Everybody knows that oil and gas drilled out of the earth comes from the remains of plants and animals trapped underground millions of years ago. This received wisdom so dominates our thinking that it is enshrined in the very language we use--fossil fuels. They took eons to form, and we are using them up far faster than they can be replenished.

What if the whole theory is wrong?

That's the premise of a small but passionate band of Russian and Ukrainian contrarians. They argue that oil and gas don't come from fossils; they're synthesized deep within the earth's mantle by heat, pressure and other purely chemical means, before gradually rising to the surface. Under the so-called abiotic theory of oil, finding all the energy we need is just a matter of looking beyond the traditional basins where fossils might have accumulated.

The idea that oil comes from fossils "is a myth. … We need to change this myth," says petroleum engineer Vladimir Kutcherov, at the Royal Institute of Technology in Sweden. "All kinds of rocks could have oil and gas deposits."

Alexander Kitchka of the Ukrainian National Academy of Sciences brashly estimates that 60% of the content of all oil is abiotic in origin, and not from fossil fuels. He says companies should drill deeper to find it.
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
2612 posts
Posted on 4/25/22 at 9:29 pm to
So you know what the accessible oil and gas reserves are?
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