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re: Can someone explain how carbon capture can make any money?

Posted on 8/12/23 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 8/12/23 at 2:31 pm to
I found newly discovered carbon sequestration units that can be profitable.


Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 8/12/23 at 2:45 pm to
I’m pretty sure they capture the carbon emissions from refineries and plants and then pipeline them to a carb cap site where they are injected into a depleted reservoir, or in some cases they are used by oil companies like denbury (recently acquired by xom, who’s going heavy on carb cap) to inject into energy depleted oil formatijon to repressure the reservoir and recover more oil.
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Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7066 posts
Posted on 8/12/23 at 2:46 pm to
Wouldn't building a golf course qualify?
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
55417 posts
Posted on 8/12/23 at 2:46 pm to
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how exactly does this generate money


Only through government subsidies of the capturing industry. The captured CO2 is fairly worthless and isn't being stored to be sold for a small profit later by some company who would then make products with it to fill a demand in the economy.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
22945 posts
Posted on 8/12/23 at 3:44 pm to
Capture carbon in trees

Cut down tress for lumber

Rivne repeat
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
22314 posts
Posted on 8/12/23 at 4:57 pm to
Government regs forcing companies to do it and government money subsidizing this stuff.

If government got out of it completely it dies almost immediately.
Posted by pochejp
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2007
7940 posts
Posted on 8/12/23 at 5:09 pm to
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If I understand correctly, these plants yank carbon dioxide from the atmospere, it is collected amd sent underground.

Jesus Christ man. Let it go. No you don’t understand correctly. lol
Posted by pochejp
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2007
7940 posts
Posted on 8/12/23 at 5:14 pm to
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It doesn't make any money without the subsidies. I've got another good one for you. Those huge compressors are 3-4 years out even if you issued a PO today. It's a scam.


Really? What kind of huge compressors? You sound like you’re in the know. I am too. Explain.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
13122 posts
Posted on 8/12/23 at 5:20 pm to
It's a money hole, it will cost billions to maintain these through brother-in-law contracts.

But it does give politicians another way to make money under the table and funnel money to friends and family.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
43346 posts
Posted on 8/12/23 at 5:28 pm to
I’m still waiting for an answer to this question…

So apparently we are going to trap all of the earths heat in by its core, thus cooling the outer crust and causing a global Ice Age?
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
13237 posts
Posted on 8/12/23 at 5:42 pm to
Why build them here? The carbon is coming from China.
Why doesn't the UN punish China for their carbon emissions.
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 8/12/23 at 6:24 pm to
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I think the subsidy is $85 a ton. If compression is less than 85 a ton, then you profit. For what purpose are we pumping CO2 into the ground, not sure.


To carbonate the drinking water, of course.
Posted by geauxbears08
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
228 posts
Posted on 8/12/23 at 9:25 pm to
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20,000 seems like a doable number worldwide. We probably have more refineries than that.


There’s about 115 in the US and 675 worldwide.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7919 posts
Posted on 8/12/23 at 9:31 pm to
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Really? What kind of huge compressors? You sound like you’re in the know. I am too. Explain.



Well just call Kobelco, Andritz, Mitsubishi, or any of the other big players in the industry. The demand and continued global post-COVID manufacturing clusterfrick are real.

I guess if doing FEL studies for this dubious technology makes me "in the know" so be it.

Care to offer any evidence to refute these claims or just attack the source?

You fricking Explain...

Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
14849 posts
Posted on 8/12/23 at 10:00 pm to
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20,000 seems like a doable number worldwide. We probably have more refineries than that.


There are between 550 and 825 refineries world wide.



And oil refineries actually make money.

Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
46620 posts
Posted on 8/12/23 at 11:23 pm to
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If I understand correctly, these plants yank carbon dioxide from the atmospere, it is collected amd sent underground.

You do not understand it. There is carbon capture and carbon sequestration. Carbon capture includes direct carbon capture, which is yanking it from the atmosphere. That is radically expensive and not anywhere close to economically practicable yet.

Most carbon capture involves grabbing it in concentrated streams such as waste from ammonia production.

Carbon sequestration is storing it underground.

Your question about it making money is irrelevant. How much money did catalytic converters make? None. But they sure cleaned up the air in big cities like LA.
Posted by roux
Tiger Territory
Member since Dec 2006
1627 posts
Posted on 8/12/23 at 11:51 pm to
How do you capture it? I know there's a huge project on Lake Maurepas but seriously it seems like a huge waste of money.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
34888 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 7:26 am to
Biden giving $1.2B to plant a couple of trees? Why did we give him so much discretionary money?
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
34888 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 7:33 am to
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How do you capture it? I know there's a huge project on Lake Maurepas but seriously it seems like a huge waste of money.

Anesthesia machines used to capture (scrub) CO2 in closed circuit by running the exhaled gases through what I believe were charcoal pellets. Kind of had to use close circuits or you would expose everyone in the room with anesthetic gases. Probably still uses something but haven't been around it in years.
Posted by bigwheel
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2008
6491 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 8:06 am to
Just another fricking dream by ecowackos that will cost the working class Money
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