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re: Can a single leftist explain how multiculturalism is supposed to work?

Posted on 10/15/23 at 10:30 am to
Posted by mahdragonz
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 10:30 am to
If you can understand the SEC then you understand multiculturalism.

How do Florida, Alabama and LSU work under the same banner.

Now should the government be involved in that?

That's another question.

I'm not a leftist fwiw.

This post was edited on 10/15/23 at 10:33 am
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 10:30 am to
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No country has never really been truly Marxist or Communist.


The first few days of Lenin were pretty interesting. He tried pure communism. He banned money. That didn't work because they needed to buy stuff from foreign countries that only dealt in money.
He also banned the concept of officers in the military. That didn't work either so they went back to the evil concept of hierarchies.
Posted by Azkiger
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 10:36 am to
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In fact, it’s perfectly possible for peoples from different culture to co-exist in a country. In fact, that’s been the case in the U. S.since the 18th Century


Like the French, Germans, Italians, English, etc.?

They have much more in common than not.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 10:37 am to
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How do Florida, Alabama and LSU work under the same banner.


Because they share a shite ton in common.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 10:46 am to
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Outside of Europe, you’ve had tremendous additions to American culture via what black people have offered along with Asians. Asians (notably from Japan, Korea, and India) have been instrumental in medicine, science research, and technology.

Black people have enriched our music and cuisine. Their Christian practices have invigorated what it means to be a charismatic Protestant.



So you are describing people of different ethnic backgrounds who have come here and "assimilated" into our dominate, traditional American culture.

That is not multiculturalism. Multi-culturism doesn't mean getting some good Thai-Pad. It means sharing a "democracy" with people who don't believe in the traditional values of your nation, and therefore having to adapt our legal system to be more like the cultures they have come from and wish not to shed themselves from (refusal to assimilate into our culture)
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 10:48 am to
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I have never understood this concept. Is there a single example in recorded human civilization of a nation having multiple cultures, and not one dominant culture? (This is not to confuse with countries having smaller subcultures)

What is the explanation for why native citizens would want "multiculturalism" and what are the benefits it provides?


Not a leftists but I've observed them for a couple of decades now...



Leftists pushing this ideology operate strictly on a spectrum of "deep down, the very foundation of every culture is to get along with every other culture in peace and harmony". That spectrum ranges from the ignorance of having experienced other cultures only from at least 1,000 miles away to willfully denying reality the reality that some cultures are based on being completely incompatible with other cultures (demanding people from other cultures adopt their culture, even if they have to use violence to enforce that). Thus, if you see other cultures differently you're simply some level of xenophobic (from "scared" to "literally Hitler"). This xenophobia applies only to members of Western culture.

They do this, largely, from the privilege of living in a Western society. They see people from other cultures in the US and assume their level of Westernization is endemic to their culture as a whole. What we see as the foundation of the culture, they can only see as "bad actors" (this is demanded by their philosophical stance, because considering anything negative about other cultures would then mean they are xenophobic).

Along with this, they view Western culture as being "oppressive, white, Christian and male". They demand Western cultures adopt people from other cultures and then conform to the cultural needs of those other people, but will staunchly defend the near-xenophobic level of other cultures to resist any change coming from the presence of those from other cultures (especially Western cultures).

This is why we saw the big push in Europe to accept the massive migration of Muslims from the Middle East and North Africa while totally denying that many from those areas would be more and more intolerant of their host culture (that intolerance increasing as their numbers increased as that swelling population more insulates them from acclimating).
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 10:55 am to
Multiculturalism works by replacing the people of a society with other people.

It is working the way it is intended.

The whole hippie-dippy "we are all humans" nonsense is how they sell it to the Useful Idiots.

If you hate a group of people to their core, you will do whatever it takes to destroy them. Imagine hating Japanese people so much that you lobby and work tirelessly to replace them with Africans, in Japan.

That's what Multiculturalism is. Once you see who is behind it. (you can't say it out loud) you realize how incredibly evil they are.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 10:57 am to
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It means sharing a "democracy" with people who don't believe in the traditional values of your nation, and therefore having to adapt our legal system to be more like the cultures they have come from and wish not to shed themselves from (refusal to assimilate into our culture)


This is inaccurate and a very narrow view of multiculturalism. What you’re responding to is a relatively recent influence of cultural Marxists who disrupt, deconstruct, and destroy.

Multiculturalism requires the celebration and utilization of diverse thought, customs, and practices while being open and honest about the inhumane and anti-democratic elements of each. Different groups bring different forms and ideas of social and cultural capital, which when considered for their positives should only strengthen Democratic practices in a liberal (freedom not political ideology) society.

America has experienced unprecedented growth and strength because of our ability to resist one or narrow ways of knowing and doing.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 10:58 am to
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I'm not a leftist fwiw.


Posted by tango029
Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 11:01 am to
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I have never understood this concept. Is there a single example in recorded human civilization of a nation having multiple cultures, and not one dominant culture? (This is not to confuse with countries having smaller subcultures) What is the explanation for why native citizens would want "multiculturalism" and what are the benefits it provides? From my perspective, there will always be one dominant culture that wins out and will seek to dominate that culture. The current zeitgeist in America seems to be pushing a very gay, neo-liberal, marxist global culture that despises the traditional American Christian heritage. But there is no way for both of these cultures to coexist with eachother.


Try cracking open a history book and look at how many different cultures settled what became the most powerful nation on the planet.

Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26937 posts
Posted on 10/15/23 at 11:04 am to
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Try cracking open a history book and look at how many different cultures settled what became the most powerful nation on the planet.


Different monocultures, yes.
Posted by TIGERVATO
Spring, TX.
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 11:14 am to
Lol....these bastards always answer a question with a question because the can't answer simple questions.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 11:15 am to
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Try cracking open a history book


How old are you?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296200 posts
Posted on 10/15/23 at 11:16 am to
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Lol....these bastards always answer a question with a question because the can't answer simple questions


The Democrat brain is the Female brain.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10321 posts
Posted on 10/15/23 at 11:26 am to
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Multiculturalism requires the celebration and utilization of diverse thought, customs, and practices while being open and honest about the inhumane and anti-democratic elements of each.


Traditional American culture is far superior to the 3rd world cultures these people are coming from. This is just a fact, the results are in the pudding and from the fruits that they bear.

Anyone coming here from those crap countries should have two choices, assimilate into our superior culture and accept its values, culture, religion, etc. Or stay their arse put in their sh*tyy country that doesn't create anything of value.

We don't need the beauty and wisdom from cultures of people who couldn't figure out how to create the wheel.
This post was edited on 10/15/23 at 1:14 pm
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20769 posts
Posted on 10/15/23 at 11:32 am to
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Can a single leftist explain how multiculturalism is supposed to work?


Oh shite…you’re coming after one of the left’s sacred cows…DIVERSITY!
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20769 posts
Posted on 10/15/23 at 11:35 am to
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I'm not a leftist fwiw.


This is either a lie or just words only with nothing substantive in anything you’ve ever posted to support them.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 11:36 am to

The melting pot model sort of worked when immigrants left behind much of their language and culture and assimilated.

That's all gone now. The current model is not assimilation into anther culture but rather domination of the other.

This design change guarantees the destruction of America.

Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15977 posts
Posted on 10/15/23 at 11:37 am to
Here is the concept

It conceptually brings up the bottom substantially and brings down the top only incrementally which is perceived as more “fair”

Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
9069 posts
Posted on 10/15/23 at 12:00 pm to
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Is there a single example in recorded human civilization of a nation having multiple cultures, and not one dominant culture?


The American South aka former Confederate states.
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