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re: California legislator passes bill for anal sex with children

Posted on 9/3/20 at 11:52 am to
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 9/3/20 at 11:52 am to
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thats the thought i had. but i also have read stories of 18yr old seniors in high school who sleep with 14yr old freshmen in high school being put onthe sex offender registry for life. check out the OT sometime when a under 18 boy sleeps with a female teacher. he is hailed as a hero and the teacher a slut. reverse the genders and see how that conversation goes.



I agree.

I think a judge should have discretion in the sex offender list if the suspect is within 5 years of the victim. My understanding is that the victim here has to be 14-17, but that the rule is 10 years.

I see no need for discretion if a 24 year old has sex with a 14 year old. And while I do not think gay people are inherently inclined to pedophilia, I do think gay culture has arguably been more enthusiastic for pretty gross young-old relationships that fall into the ranges covered by this law change, including those which cross legal lines. Basically it got lumped in with the libertine rejection of all other conservative values.

So I can see that history and attitude resulting in scenarios where a judge doesn't punish the 25 year old for hooking up with the 15 year old. Which would never happen for a M-F relationship in 2020.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56467 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 11:56 am to
I would think this is to protect 18yr olds who have 16yr old GFs with crazy parents who press charges against the 18yr old?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 9/3/20 at 11:59 am to
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I would think this is to protect 18yr olds who have 16yr old GFs with crazy parents who press charges against the 18yr old?


What in the History of insane California Politicians and Lawyers would cause you to give them the benefit of the doubt?
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/3/20 at 11:59 am to
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what they did hear is was give the judge the same choice if the sex is in the butt.

You and Simon must have been going at it when you typed this. Pay attention to Simon.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57898 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 11:59 am to
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I would think this is to protect 18yr olds who have 16yr old GFs with crazy parents who press charges against the 18yr old?




Hmmm, 18-16 = 2....

quote:

, adults less than 10 years older than the minor who are convicted of having anal or oral sex with that minor would not automatically be added to the sex-offender registry


Maybe you should stop thinking
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
14990 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 12:00 pm to
It is still illegal for adults to have sex with kids in California. They, if Governor signs the bill, will be treating gay people like straight people.
Posted by Mrtommorrow1987
Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2008
13473 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 12:00 pm to
How the frick does this pass into law ?
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
8447 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 12:02 pm to
Cali has to replace all the people fleeing the state for taxes and stuff with someone... It would appear they have decided on the type of people they want as replacements.
Posted by ScotchBotch
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 9/3/20 at 12:03 pm to
George Bush lost this state by 9% in 2004. What happened?
Posted by Niccolo Machiavelli
Member since Jun 2020
1622 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 12:08 pm to
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In b4 hank


He’s checking with CNN’s legal experts for talking points
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
48591 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 12:09 pm to
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Gays having anal sex with children as young as 8 will not be sex offenders


Remember when they just wanted to get officially married?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87383 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

I would think this is to protect 18yr olds who have 16yr old GFs with crazy parents who press charges against the 18yr old?



Well that is how it already is. And I'm sure that's how they're framing this too.

In theory - no objection. While I don't have a problem with a 20 year old being prosecuted for having sex with a 16 year old, I'm not sure he should be on the same list as a bonafide child molester. Maybe we could make some separate "dirtbag" list for distinction purposes, but regardless, a young person having sex with a consenting teen probably isn't something that should follow them forever in a lot of scenarios.

But I don't think you need 10 years, and I don't think California judges are going to apply this fairly considering the libertine celebration of these relationships in the old school gay community.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104096 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 12:11 pm to
They didn’t say to who.

That little 8 year old wants to elope with them to Bangkok.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87383 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 12:11 pm to
This isn't true btw

At least based on what I read, the bill only applies to victims/children 14-17.
Posted by Niccolo Machiavelli
Member since Jun 2020
1622 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 12:12 pm to
Is normalizing pedophilia, regardless of the sexual orientation of the offender, really the hill you want to die on?
Posted by patnuh
South LA
Member since Sep 2005
7437 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 12:14 pm to
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Sen. Scott Weiner, a gay politician who represents San Francisco,


That’s out of a comedy skit.
Posted by artisticsavant
Member since Mar 2017
5436 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 12:17 pm to
So they want it to be OK for a 21 year old to buy beers and get scouting sixth grade boys for which ones to get drunk and put it in their butt? I guess they really don't want today's politicians to be tomorrow's pedophiles however true it may be. This is sick.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 12:17 pm to
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If one group of the population can nail kids in the arse, then we all should.
the bill doesn't make it legal. Just applies to sex registry, which is kind of stupid anyway, or half assed at best.
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
9026 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 12:22 pm to
Of course this idiot supports Drag Queen Story Hour...

Drag Queens reading to toddlers...

I can't believe people like him are Senators running our country...
This post was edited on 9/3/20 at 12:23 pm
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
8870 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 12:22 pm to
id love to hear the democrats defend this
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