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re: Calif. releases latest test scores

Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:42 pm to
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:42 pm to
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When you guys make threads wondering why more successful black folks still don't vote conservative...
So we shouldn't have conversations on race, because blacks are too sensitive?

I guess we have more respect for their emotional fortitude, so as to expect engagement rather than flight.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:42 pm to
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Researchers have conducted many studies to look for genes that influence intelligence. Many of these studies have focused on similarities and differences in IQ within families, particularly looking at adopted children and twins. These studies suggest that genetic factors underlie about 50 percent of the difference in intelligence among individuals.


That's fine. And that's another thread and another topic.

But these tests don't prove that. Those not what these tests are designed for.

This entire thread is using stupid generic scholastic learned knowledge tests to post facts about superior races and IQs.

It's more reasonable to say...okay, these people study hard and these people are lazy or don't care.

Instead of using it a basis for IQ. A horse can learn to count with his hoof if you put in the effort.

These are effort test scores by and large. They are not logic tests, IQ tests...it's who can learn certain things or memorize certain things.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:43 pm to
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When you guys make threads wondering why more successful black folks still don't vote conservative...This is why. No one is going to willfully stand shoulder to shoulder with a political group that has so many members that actually believe minorities are intellectually hard-coded to be inferior.


Across a broad spectrum? So what?

It's science and nature (things the left is supposed to love, right?)

No one is saying that individual minorities aren't brilliant. We're talking about averages across enormous populations of people. It's the same with gender. Women are more concentrated around the median of the bell curve than men who spread out on the edges more.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14484 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:43 pm to
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Honest question: do you believe that genetics play no part in intelligence and academic success?


Nope, genetics only affects everything single thing else that makes you you. Not intelligence. That would racist. Genetics can’t be racist...or wait...can they???
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:43 pm to
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Different demographics (races) have very different IQs.
I can appreciate at least that you don't try to obfuscate your views on racial superiority.
Posted by AggieDub14
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:43 pm to
Culture can influence who you choose as a partner to have children with, but I don't think it's accurate to say it influences genetics. Genetics however can absolutely influence culture.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:43 pm to
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Culture can influence genetics.



Or perhaps it is the opposite.
Posted by GulfstreamTiger
Sondheimer Louisiana
Member since May 2017
796 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:43 pm to
Correct, iq or intelligence quotient is not about what you know it is about what you are capable of learning. It's based on the baseline intelligence of a 16 year old with a formula to create numbers showing either a higher intelligence or more mature brain.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:44 pm to
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quote:
Culture can influence genetics.


Or perhaps it is the opposite.


More likely, they're intertwined.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:44 pm to
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I can appreciate at least that you don't try to obfuscate your views on racial superiority.



Disparate IQ levels =/= superiority.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:44 pm to
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I would say it's more cultural, and I don't think that's racist to say.

What a pussy thing to say. You're scared, aren't you?
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:45 pm to
It's not my opinion. It's science. And if upper class blacks want to align themselves with the hood that's their choice. It's not my fault.
Posted by AggieDub14
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:45 pm to
Living large after that Iowa state win huh? How was it going 4 full years without scoring in Ames? Pathetic.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:46 pm to
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So we shouldn't have conversations on race, because blacks are too sensitive?

You are free to have any conversations you like. I am merely stating that there are numerous posts in this thread openly asserting racial supremacy. Conversely, there is a daily thread on the front page questioning why minorities tend to vote democrat. My point is that if a political ideology tends to view a race as inferior they are probably unlikely to get their vote.

I'm sure the mods will burn me for this but I think it is a reasonable statement.
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:46 pm to
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Tests that test you on learned knowledge...are not IQ tests.


Technically true but there is usually a strong correlation between the two.

In general people with higher IQ's tend to learn more and learn easier, and therefore do better on tests that are knowledge based.

I can all but guarantee you if you performed actual IQ tests on people who performed well on a knowledge based test you would see those people had much higher IQ's on average than those who performed poorly.

There will exceptions (high IQ people who were lazy and didn't bother to learn, or lower IQ people who really, really studied) however they will be exceptions, not the rule.
Posted by claremontrich
Member since Nov 2016
2001 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:47 pm to
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quote: some races are MENTALLY superior People are mentally superior because of their upbringing and resources. Not because of the color of their skin. This is some ignorant crap right here. You've been huffing too many balloons. Asian parents make their kids study more. White parents make their kids study more. Studying leads to better test scores.


There is only ONE rational argument that you could make to support your point. Separate the black kids between African American and kids of immediate African immigrants(. Who treat primary and secondary schooling like Asian parents). The difference is significant in favor of the kids of African immigrants.

Then you might have a point.

Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:47 pm to
Blacks score lower in English than Latinos

I don't care the rationale, that's just damning



I mean. . .no spin can account for that
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:47 pm to
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Disparate IQ levels =/= superiority.
How is a hard-coded higher IQ based on the color of your skin not superiority? By definition I think that is a bit hard to argue.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140479 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:47 pm to
Aggiedub = science denier

Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:48 pm to
You sound like a pussy and a titty baby.
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