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Calif. releases latest test scores

Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:19 pm
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:19 pm
Same as it always is...

SFGate

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Despite decades of effort and billions of dollars in funding, test scores for white, Asian American and wealthier students are much higher than those of their black, Latino and low-income peers.


Hmm, I guess throwing money at the IQ problem doesn't work out so well.
Posted by Balloon Huffer
Member since Sep 2010
3421 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:25 pm to
We are different, but equal.

Why can't we just admit this.

Some races are clearly PHYSICALLY superior, right?

It is plain to see and we can all acknowledge this right???

Well guess what, some races are MENTALLY superior.

It is also plain to see yet, we CANNOT acknowledge this.

And therein lies the entire problem.

Liberals want equal outcomes - not equal opportunities. But when you have different abilities you will have DIFFERENT OUTCOMES.

The problem is, we are NOT EQUAL. Some are smart, some are stupid. Some are slow. Some are fast.



Posted by AggieDub14
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

some races are MENTALLY superior


People are mentally superior because of their upbringing and resources. Not because of the color of their skin. This is some ignorant crap right here. You've been huffing too many balloons.

Asian parents make their kids study more.
White parents make their kids study more.
Studying leads to better test scores.
This post was edited on 9/29/17 at 3:29 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:27 pm to
Latinos score higher than blacks in fricking ENGLISH!!!



What in the actual?




Asian American
English 75.54
Math.....72.69
African American
English 31.23
Math.....19.02
Latino
English 37.28
Math.....25.2
White
English 64.29
Math.....52.85
All students
English 48.56
Math.....37.56
This post was edited on 9/29/17 at 3:31 pm
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

People are mentally superior because of their upbringing and resources


Twin studies proved you're wrong 50 years ago. But this is America. You're perfectly free to be ignorant.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:29 pm to
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People are mentally superior because of their upbringing and resources.


False. Genetic IQ is a real thing.

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Not because of the color of their skin.


There are a lot of studies that clearly demonstrate a difference in IQ ranges across racial populations. Don't be anti-science.


Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35434 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:29 pm to
Family structure problem.

Mom is working - kid comes home - no parental guidance; nobody telling he can't ignore school.

Now Asian families, school is everything; two parents...family does everything together.

Anybody can do well on a scholastic test - you just have to put in the work. The more structured and strict the environment with regards to scholastics, the better the kid will do. They're not IQ tests. School test scores are "who studies and who doesn't" tests. It's math and English...not 17th century French poetry.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:29 pm to
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Not because of the color of their skin.
There is more to race than skin color.

That's some ignorant shite right there.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:29 pm to
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People are mentally superior because of their upbringing and resources.


That is only partially true. We have as many, perhaps more, advantages due to the genetic lottery than our socioeconomic upbringing. For instance, identical twins who were raised separate, and in different socioeconomic situations, tend to experience the same amount of success in life. In terms of test scores, black students with household incomes north of 150k score about the same as white students with household incomes south of 50k.
Posted by AggieDub14
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:30 pm to
Correlation without causation. See my previous post.
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:30 pm to
How long until Betsy Devos is blamed for this?
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13494 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

People are mentally superior because of their upbringing and resources.

Well we're puking resources like there's no tomorrow.

Maybe we should be teaching superior culture to all races?!
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:31 pm to
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some races are MENTALLY superior.


What's your excuse then?
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55438 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

Correlation without causation. See my previous post.



Honest question: do you believe that genetics play no part in intelligence and academic success?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:32 pm to
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Correlation without causation. See my previous post.
Genetics relation to IQ is NOT causation?

What?
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:32 pm to
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Correlation without causation. See my previous post.




Cute. Using words you don't understand. The study didn't conclude causation one way or the other and certainly did not summarize that IQ differences were environmental
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:32 pm to
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Mom is working


Then black kids should score highest. Mom isn't working. She's on welfare and busy making more kids.
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

Asian parents make their kids study more.
White parents make their kids study more.
Studying leads to better test scores.


Sounds like there are major cultural issues in the black community.

But that gets called racist too.

It's either genetic or cultural, it has to be one or the other or both, yet both get dismissed as 'racist'
Posted by AggieDub14
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Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:33 pm to
I think genetics play a part in intelligence and academic success. I think environment plays a much bigger part. Parents with a high IQ are likely going to maintain an environment for their kids that helps them succeed. Parents with a lower IQ will have a tougher time doing that. Correlation without causation. The genetics aren't necessarily the cause, but there is a correlation.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35434 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:33 pm to
Tests that test you on learned knowledge...are not IQ tests.
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