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re: Calif. releases latest test scores
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:58 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:58 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:I highly doubt these "studies" folks are referencing profiled everyone's DNA. They are either using self-identified race (like when you fill in the demographics before taking a test) or observable racial characteristics like skin color...
Well are the studies here geared more toward DNA or melanin? I don't know, honestly.
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:59 pm to Balloon Huffer
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We are different, but equal.
Why can't we just admit this.
Some races are clearly PHYSICALLY superior, right?
It is plain to see and we can all acknowledge this right???
Well guess what, some races are MENTALLY superior.
It is also plain to see yet, we CANNOT acknowledge this.
And therein lies the entire problem.
Liberals want equal outcomes - not equal opportunities. But when you have different abilities you will have DIFFERENT OUTCOMES.
The problem is, we are NOT EQUAL. Some are smart, some are stupid. Some are slow. Some are fast.
Everything is true except intelligence. You may ask why, well, because now you're racist. It's ok to say the black race is a superior athlete and most honest people would agree but don't you dare mention intelligence because now you're racist.
This topic is also one of the quickest ways to get banned, or so I've been told.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:00 pm to Tigerdev
The IQ gap between races has been proven repeatedly and the gap is very consistent.
The wikipedia article is very detailed and surprisingly fair.
The trickiest part is defining "race"
However the gap manifests itself consistently across standardized test, I think it's 1.1 standard deviations.
The IQ gap is 1.1 STDs and the gap on all standardized tests always comes in at the same.
The wikipedia article is very detailed and surprisingly fair.
The trickiest part is defining "race"
However the gap manifests itself consistently across standardized test, I think it's 1.1 standard deviations.
The IQ gap is 1.1 STDs and the gap on all standardized tests always comes in at the same.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:00 pm to Tigerdev
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Conversely, there is a daily thread on the front page questioning why minorities tend to vote democrat.
Well, you've got a good point there. And I have never posted anything about questioning why blacks vote Dem. They vote Dem because it's logical. It was explained to me by Prof. Arthur, a black colleague. The short but true explanation he gave me:
'Capitalism is competition. It therefore has winners and losers. Those who win are advantaged by intelligence and a strong work ethic. That's white people. Blacks, in general, are doomed to fall short so an egalitarian system like socialism is much more appealing. The successful are forced to support the unsuccessful.'
His logic only fails on the issue of black people who are very smart and work really hard. They should be conservatives. But then rich Jews should be conservatives, too.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:00 pm to Tigerdev
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Correlating melanin content to IQ is pretty dodgy and pseudo-science at best. I know a black guy whose DNA came back 51% European
OK fair point. American blacks have a iq around 80 which is 10 points above their subharan ancestors. The reason for this is that they have DNA from more than just subharan.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:00 pm to chadau79
quote:I wouldn't say this is true. I actually think in general, a lot of the best athletes come from a more impoverished background. The less nice your house the less you wanna stay inside. Drive down MLK if you wanna see the entire neighborhood outside on a 100 degree day.
Some races are clearly PHYSICALLY superior, right?
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:00 pm to Tigerdev
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Do you think that a study would show that in mixed folks (which is practically everyone in America in some small way), the more European and Asian DNA that person has the higher their IQ?
It's definitely possible. However, the only biology and genetics I know well are from plants, and I know next to nothing about the human genome other than what I'm able to skim from journals and scientists' personal blogs.
The 'American' genome is going to be harder to make any firm inferences about ethnic differences than any long-standing country, for obvious reasons. I am almost totally Scots-Irish/English, for instance, yet I'd be in the same group as Italo-Greeks, which were seperated genetically many thousands of years ago. That goes for just about anybody here.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:01 pm to Tigerdev
quote:Race is determined by melanin content alone, huh?
I think correlating melanin content in one's skin to IQ is rather ridiculous and yes, self-serving.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:02 pm to AggieDub14
quote:Do you think genetics play a part in ability to run a sub-10-second 100m? Do you think genetics play a part in 40" vertical leaping ability? Do you think genetics play a part in ability to be a SportsIllustrated swimsuit model?
I think genetics play a part in intelligence and academic success. I think environment plays a much bigger part.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:03 pm to Tigerdev
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I actually think in general, a lot of the best athletes come from a more impoverished background.
Rural Appalachia doesn't really seem to produce many athletes in any sport.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:03 pm to Roaad
quote:Race is a sociological construct. Nationality is also but does correlate to something more specific.
Race is determined by melanin content alone, huh?
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:04 pm to Zach
Hmmmmm....
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:04 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Uh we can drive cars pretty dang good.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:05 pm to HempHead
quote:is not the same as saying that it is a scientific fact that European DNA is superior in terms of intelligence and inferior in terms to athletic ability. Which is the premise of many posts in the thread...
It's definitely possible
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:05 pm to HempHead
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Uh we can drive cars pretty dang good.
Dem genes!!!
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:05 pm to HempHead
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That's certainly not what I'm saying. In fact, I'm willing to bet that there are significant differences within racial sub-types as it relates to IQ averages. For instance, I'm guessing that the average Ethiopian IQ is higher than the average Congolose, the average Norwegian IQ is higher than the average Greek IQ, and the average Japanese IQ is higher than the average Indonesian IQ.
control for Neantherthal DNA and for Denisovan DNA.
the islands south and southeast of Asia have both Neanderthal and Denisovan DNA in the populations. Papua New Guinea, famous for some backward behaviors, has 6% Neanderthal and 4% Densovan.
the island of Bougainville is going to be a Phd research bonanza.
black people. not brown. the only black people in the south Pacific.
On an island with many volcanoes separating regions with 250K people within the same 50 sq miles as San Francisco, there are 20 language dialects and three language groups. No more than 20% speak any one dialect.
They practice rape as a cultural tradition. not just of adult women. of girls, of men.
What is the DNA of those folks?
How about those people on Mindinao who scrabble naked in the jungle and eat raw frogs?
internet tells me that 4 of the 5 streams of native americans who came from Siberia had significant Neanderthal DNA.
I doubt the assertion above that Norway IQ higher than Greek.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:05 pm to Tigerdev
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Race is a sociological construct.
No, it is not. There are clear physical and genetic differences between races, to the point that one can look at a genetic sample or even skull structure and determine a racial grouping.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:06 pm to Y.A. Tittle
How many people are in rural appalachia?
Top pro-level athletes are absurdly rare on the statistical curve.
Top pro-level athletes are absurdly rare on the statistical curve.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:06 pm to AggieDub14
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People are mentally superior because of their upbringing and resources. Not because of the color of their skin. This is some ignorant crap right here. You've been huffing too many balloons.
Asian parents make their kids study more.
White parents make their kids study more.
Studying leads to better test scores.
There are raw IQ test that have nothing to do with studying, these test are not exams or for that matter even like the Wonderlic. The tests are based on logical thinking patterns, spatial reasoning etc. It has nothing to do with rote knowledge. That is the only type of testing that shows raw intelligence.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:06 pm to Roaad
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atinos score higher than blacks in fricking ENGLISH!!!
They do even if you only look at children of 1st generation
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