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re: Calif. releases latest test scores
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:34 pm to IAmReality
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:34 pm to IAmReality
I would say it's more cultural, and I don't think that's racist to say.
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:34 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:Mkay.
Tests that test you on learned knowledge...are not IQ tests.
Did someone say they were, or suggest that they were?
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:35 pm to Antonio Moss
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Using words you don't understand
Meet me at sonic bitch.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:35 pm to Zach
It wasn't enough money.
If they just throw more money, it will make a difference.
If they just throw more money, it will make a difference.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:35 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
LINK
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Researchers have conducted many studies to look for genes that influence intelligence. Many of these studies have focused on similarities and differences in IQ within families, particularly looking at adopted children and twins. These studies suggest that genetic factors underlie about 50 percent of the difference in intelligence among individuals. Other studies have examined variations across the entire genomes of many people (an approach called genome-wide association studies or GWAS) to determine whether any specific areas of the genome are associated with IQ. These studies have not conclusively identified any genes that underlie differences in intelligence. It is likely that a large number of genes are involved, each of which makes only a small contribution to a person’s intelligence.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:36 pm to Roaad
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Did someone say they were, or suggest that they were?
Uh...OP?
First post, talking about you can't improve IQ.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:36 pm to AggieDub14
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People are mentally superior because of their upbringing and resources. Not because of the color of their skin. This is some ignorant crap right here.
It's not just color of skin and is repeatable across multiple studies with scientific control methods. It is not that hard to understand, you see it every day in practice.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:37 pm to AggieDub14
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Parents with a lower IQ will have a tougher time doing that. Correlation without causation.
Adoption studies prove you're wrong. You can put a newborn infant of parents with 76 IQ immediately into the home of 2 married doctors. The kid is going to grow up a total moron.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:37 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Tests that test you on learned knowledge...are not IQ tests.
Sure, but that doesn't mean that IQ isn't an incredibly significant factor in scoring.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:38 pm to AggieDub14
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People are mentally superior because of their upbringing and resources. Not because of the color of their skin.
I believe this to be true. No surprise that low income households score lower on tests than households that can afford a parent at home to supervise homework and studying or a tutor for subjects not mastered in class.
2 parent households and a culture of demanding success also have a huge impact. The question is how to help students without these advantages do better.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:39 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:So what are the numbers for single parent white and asian households
Mom is working - kid comes home - no parental guidance; nobody telling he can't ignore school.
and what are the numbers for 2-parent black versus 2-parent white and asian?
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:40 pm to AggieDub14
No you are wrong. Even when adopted by upper class whites who have biological children and have equal resources, blacks lag behind the lowest economic group of white children.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:40 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Uh...OP? First post, talking about you can't improve IQ.
You don't understand. Let me type really slowly.
The reason that gaps exist in test scores (achievement)...not IQ.
IS BECAUSE..
Different demographics (races) have very different IQs.
Therefore, throwing money at lower demographic groups will not improve their achievement test scores.
BECAUSE...
It does not change their IQ.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW?
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:40 pm to Zach
When you guys make threads wondering why more successful black folks still don't vote conservative...This is why. No one is going to willfully stand shoulder to shoulder with a political group that has so many members that actually believe minorities are intellectually hard-coded to be inferior.
Your beliefs are your own and you have a right to your opinion. But its pretty disingenuous for you guys to wonder aloud why black folks are generally uninterested in aligning themselves politically with conservatives...even when an upper class minority would benefit from their tax policies.
Your beliefs are your own and you have a right to your opinion. But its pretty disingenuous for you guys to wonder aloud why black folks are generally uninterested in aligning themselves politically with conservatives...even when an upper class minority would benefit from their tax policies.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:40 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:He is referencing another debate, not conflating them
Uh...OP?
First post, talking about you can't improve IQ.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:40 pm to LSUGrrrl
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People are mentally superior because of their upbringing and resources. Not because of the color of their skin.
I believe this to be true.
Well, it's not. Upbringing and resources are smaller parts of the equation than genetics.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:40 pm to Zach
Studies like that don't prove anything. They simply build confidence. I'd like to hear more about these studies. How old were the kids when they were adopted?
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:41 pm to Zach
Bet day be woke doe!
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:41 pm to AggieDub14
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I would say it's more cultural, and I don't think that's racist to say.
Culture can influence genetics.
I was not going to have children with a stupid woman.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 3:42 pm to Zach
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