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re: Calexit
Posted on 12/26/18 at 2:09 pm to Sunbeam
Posted on 12/26/18 at 2:09 pm to Sunbeam
quote:
I'd actually like to see a proposed water plan for California if the Colorado River no longer flowed to SoCal.
Lots of other places in the West to use that
That would be one of if not the biggest problem for independant California.
But again, there are so many others that they would probably fail long before they died of thirst.
This post was edited on 12/26/18 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 12/26/18 at 2:09 pm to SDVTiger
Let'em. Feds own like 45%+ of their land that we'd keep. FedGov would retain military bases. No federal dollars.
Posted on 12/26/18 at 2:12 pm to 995webmaster
quote:
Calexit? Nah. Texit? Oh yeah!
Nah...we need to save the union and Texas is *still* on the good guys' side. Cali would be addition through subtraction!
Posted on 12/26/18 at 2:13 pm to Cbo83
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Memphis is a third world country lmaooooo.... Foh
1. I don’t live in Memphis and haven’t for a decade
2. Memphis is still nicer than New Orleans (where I currently live)even with all of its problems
3. None of that has ANYTHING to do with the discussion of Calexit so I’m unclear as to why you keep interjectingninto this thread other than the fact that you are just a butthurt a-hole.
Posted on 12/26/18 at 2:18 pm to ILeaveAtHalftime
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the world's sixth largest economy
Because it is part of the economy of the US. California also has over a trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities. A real behemoth for sure.
Posted on 12/26/18 at 2:47 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
California is going to collapse under it's own weight. It's already happening. Just give it time.
Posted on 12/26/18 at 3:57 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Harry...
Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Here’s my suggestion.
The SEC states succeed.
Ask Texas if they would like to join us.
Or any other state.
We will control 100% of college football.
We will control 100% of pro football.
We win.
Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Here’s my suggestion.
The SEC states succeed.
Ask Texas if they would like to join us.
Or any other state.
We will control 100% of college football.
We will control 100% of pro football.
We win.
Posted on 12/26/18 at 4:02 pm to Rohan Gravy
Merry Christmas to you and yours fine sir
Rohan, my Bellamy Brothers Whistlin Dixie sig quote is dedicated in honor of you today
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Rohan, my Bellamy Brothers Whistlin Dixie sig quote is dedicated in honor of you today
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This post was edited on 12/26/18 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 12/26/18 at 4:13 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Brought tears to my eyes.
I’m honored By your dedication, Harry.
I’m honored By your dedication, Harry.
Posted on 12/26/18 at 9:24 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
No way, the people can leave, the land belongs to us!
Posted on 12/27/18 at 12:09 am to AustinTigr
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needs to be some rules in place. For starters, the progressive liberal trash cannot move to the rest of the United States when their socialist society crumbles
I wish rules worked. If rules work as they were theorized to work, there wouldn’t be illegals pouring over the border at this very moment.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 12:22 am to Harry Rex Vonner
Mother nature will take care of this long before it moves through Constitutional procedure.
This post was edited on 12/27/18 at 12:23 am
Posted on 12/27/18 at 12:53 am to Sunbeam
quote:
I'd actually like to see a proposed water plan for California if the Colorado River no longer flowed to SoCal.
Lots of other places in the West to use that.
The people that think California could maintain their economic power without the US seem to not realize how much power California gets from other states as well. Good luck maintaining a tech and ag industry with little water and power. Within weeks, the "elites" would be hoarding both, and the masses would be rioting.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 3:02 am to ILeaveAtHalftime
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the world's sixth largest economy
I know this already got the beat down, but this is an actual talking point to how great California is.
When you peel back the layers though, it would not survive on its own. California was able to leapfrog up to 6th on the strength of the US Dollar. Obviously the removal of that is going to be a large setback.
The growth is also concentrated in Silicon Valley, which actually makes it more of a paper placement and not physical. Should those companies move (current trend is to Texas) or tech bubble burst you will see an astronomical drop in economy rankings.
There are valid reasons to argue about keeping California, the economical strength is not one of them.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 3:18 am to Harry Rex Vonner
quote:
by Harry Rex Vonner
You win Calexit
I won't fight it
You can leave
7 rows of 7 stars would make a beautiful flag if California leaving was the reason
Posted on 12/27/18 at 5:51 am to Boatshoes
quote:
I want to help Calexit. If I sneak across the border there can I vote for it?
Might need to 'brown' yourself up a bit to avoid detection, rejection, and deportation, but I like your thinking !!!
Posted on 12/27/18 at 8:47 am to trinidadtiger
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And I guess 48 hours after they announce independence and Russia and China arrive they will fight them with said sugar canes.....just a hillbilly speaking.....
Or perhaps they will remain such an economic power when they dont have the US negotiating deals for them.
Or perhaps the US decides to put tariffs on them since they disregard federal law now, payback might be a bitch eh.
Or maybe we just cut off the water and watch them wither away......
Let's assume California - actually let's just say the West Coast, California, Oregon, and Washington left the Union.
Now that's unrealistic, because while this is sellable to the population centers, a lot of the residents in each state's Hooterville ain't gonna like it. And in the end they are going to have whatever borders they are told they are going to have - whether they like it or not. If they don't, well let Antifa show us their actual prowess on the battlefield.
But leave that aside. Just say the entirety of all 3 current states leave peaceably, as is.
What happens then?
My theory is the Chinese take over. There'll be nothing to stop mass immigration of Chinese on a scale we really haven't seen yet.
They'll be the money, they'll be the population, they'll be the power. And at that point the SJW's are going to get a rude awakening.
What they are going to find is that they are a particular kind of hot-house flower, one that can only survive if they are indulged.
And the Chinese are not going to indulge them.
Mysteriously they will also find that someohow or other the entire faculties of UCLA, Berkeley, Stanford, UC-Irvine, Harvey Mudd, etc. take on a yellow hue.
It'll be real puzzling. Dollars to doughnuts they never figure it out. They'll think one more protest or something is going to speak truth to power, and bring social justice to University hiring.
Until the Chinese get tired of that sh*t and roll out some Singapore-style social order.
Hmmm a Lee Kuan Yew statue in LA. Gotta love it.
Lest anyone think I am practicing hyperbole, come on. More people in China travel long distances for the Lunar New Year than live in North America. Then they go back tow where they came from. Year after year.
You let them in, they will come. And Antifa-Land is by definition set up to allow this.
Until the new rulers put their foot down.
And as an aside, British Columbia will at that point decide they like this new Feng Shui state and just leave Canada.
Inherit the wind, liberals.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 9:00 am to Harry Rex Vonner
So my e coli lettuce would be imported for California?
Posted on 12/27/18 at 9:17 am to Harry Rex Vonner
And when they invite China/other like-minded Marxist Nations to 'lease' land and build Military bases over on the West coast...then what...not a problem?
There will be no peaceful 'secessions', by any States; especially those with critical Military dynamics. There will likely be civil unrest bordering on insurgent rebellion from whichever Side reacts to the other Side's perceived overreach. For the Central State/Socialist economic model to be implemented, the 'Government' will require the private property/affluence of the Middle Class. That is when all hell breaks loose, when the Middle Class realizes that 'compromise' means giving up that affluence in service to the massive waves of 'illegal' immigrants that will swarm our open border Nation. "Fundamental change".
The only predictor for this is history. Likely to get rough. Live and learn.
There will be no peaceful 'secessions', by any States; especially those with critical Military dynamics. There will likely be civil unrest bordering on insurgent rebellion from whichever Side reacts to the other Side's perceived overreach. For the Central State/Socialist economic model to be implemented, the 'Government' will require the private property/affluence of the Middle Class. That is when all hell breaks loose, when the Middle Class realizes that 'compromise' means giving up that affluence in service to the massive waves of 'illegal' immigrants that will swarm our open border Nation. "Fundamental change".
The only predictor for this is history. Likely to get rough. Live and learn.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:44 am to RCDfan1950
quote:
For the Central State/Socialist economic model to be implemented, the 'Government' will require the private property/affluence of the Middle Class. That is when all hell breaks loose, when the Middle Class realizes that 'compromise' means giving up that affluence in service to the massive waves of 'illegal' immigrants that will swarm our open border Nation. "Fundamental change".
I agree that the US needs some protectionist policies for national security. However, if the middle class is damaged then it is the fault of both sides of the political spectrum.
What is considered middle class today is a far cry from what it was circa 1950s-1970. I'm sure you're much older than me, so all I can say is what I've read about economics back then vs the cost of living today.
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