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re: BWAHAHAHA Magnificent bastard did it again! Now both Ds and Rs support Maxwell's testimony

Posted on 7/25/25 at 3:42 pm to
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170769 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 3:42 pm to
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The only reason anyone on either side cares about Epstein is because they’ve been told by the Internet that their political enemies are on a list that doesn’t exist.

Oh there is definitely a list of some sort. It's just a matter of if there is proof that can lead to convictions.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35823 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 3:45 pm to
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Oh there is definitely a list of some sort. It's just a matter of if there is proof that can lead to convictions.

There isn’t ever going to ever be some release of names if those people cannot be connected to prosecutable crimes.

It’s hard to fathom that so many don’t seem to understand that. Which was my point. Everyone apparently just wants names to freak out over out of political expediency. If the DOJ had any evidence whatsoever they’d have moved years ago.

Believing that someone like Epstein kept some sort of ledger of his crimes is just naive and hilarious at the same time. That doesn’t exist. Any “list” is just going to be people that Maxwell saw at the island. If she had observed anyone important doing something illegal, why would she not have leveraged that during her trial? It makes no sense that it’s somehow still a secret.

Just another situation that the internet has convinced itself is broader and more intricate than it was in reality.
This post was edited on 7/25/25 at 3:47 pm
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
3641 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 4:15 pm to
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There is at least reasonable suspicion of wrong doing on his part

Not really. If there was any "there" there it would have come out sooo many years ago. I admire your dedication to this delusion though. Respect!



This post was edited on 7/25/25 at 4:16 pm
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92842 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 4:25 pm to
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That video was brought up yesterday and I posted another video of him answering other questions the exact same way. He answered 100s of questions with exact same answer.


Facts be damned mang!! They are literally taking the non-answer of a now dead convicted pedo as an admission of guilt

How stupid are you lefties exactly?
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
28417 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 4:30 pm to
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The deputy AG went to visit her in prison. The optics will be that she is going to clear Trump of any wrong doing in exchange for a pardon.

You say that only because you're committed to believing President Trump is guilty of something.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86320 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 4:37 pm to
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do you even lie detector?



Polygraphs aren’t admissible in most U.S. courts due to reliability concerns.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91710 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 4:38 pm to
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Polygraphs aren’t admissible in most U.S. courts due to reliability concerns.
certainly used to fire government workers for leaking recently

and is she going to be doing this in court or in front of congress?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467197 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 4:39 pm to
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You say that only because you're committed to believing President Trump is guilty of something.

I mean this is clearly how the MSM is going to play this, if it occurs that way.

"Trump pardoned a convicted sex trafficker for flimsy evidence to attack his political enemies"

The headlines write themselves
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15973 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 4:39 pm to
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i imagine she knows if she tries to make up stuff that doesn't match documents/flight logs she'll be skewered.


Skewered? She has already been convicted they can’t anything else to her. She really has nothing to lose.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467197 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 4:39 pm to
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and is she going to be doing this in court or in front of congress?

If it's a serious inquiry, neither.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91710 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 4:41 pm to
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Skewered? She has already been convicted they can’t anything else to her. She really has nothing to lose.
well if her pardon is contingent upon honesty i would think she would
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467197 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 4:43 pm to
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well if her pardon is contingent upon honesty i

You can't revoke a pardon
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15973 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 4:43 pm to
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well if her pardon is contingent upon honesty i would think she would


Short of a document directly contradicting something how would you show she is lying. Without documents or other verification everything she says is suspect.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91710 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 4:52 pm to
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You can't revoke a pardon
i would assume she would have to confess to the crimes first, before a pardon would cover them
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35156 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 4:55 pm to
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You can't revoke a pardon

That’s genuinely an interesting point, and I don’t intend any offense by this but I’d like to know the source or citation for it.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15973 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 5:02 pm to
If you could undo pardons it would have happened already. Not to mention that ability would create an insane amount of uncertainty.

Federal our ruled that pardons are a final act and irrevocable.
This post was edited on 7/25/25 at 5:04 pm
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35156 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 5:09 pm to
Well I wasn’t dismissing the concept of pardons being irrevocable, I was only asking for whatever statutory source makes it official, or enforceable if you will. I suppose it could possibly come in a number of possible forms/ways. And I wasn’t arguing the wisdom of making pardons irrevocable or irreversible either - I don’t necessarily disagree with your thoughts on that. Just looking for the law or other form of “rule” that covers it, specifically if possible.
This post was edited on 7/25/25 at 5:11 pm
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10858 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 5:14 pm to
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The big problem here is that it gives Dems an out to allege a sweetheart deal in exchange for exonerating Trump.

That will 100% be the play, regardless.



It's not as if Trump initiated this. He is on records as saying he doesn't understand why people are still curious about the Epstein saga and blasted a portion of his base for buying into it. That should be how his press secretary responds.
Posted by FireawayLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2023
1744 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 5:29 pm to
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No one has ever lied for a pardon or leniency in sentencing.


Well thanks for sharing the new dem war cry on this story. Seriously do they email you sheep things to say or by text?? How do you all get on the same page like a bunch of parrots?? It’s impressive actually.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19670 posts
Posted on 7/25/25 at 5:31 pm to
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The deputy AG went to visit her in prison. The optics will be that she is going to clear Trump of any wrong doing in exchange for a pardon

Only one problem for you. Why did Biden leave Trump alone for 4 years? I guess it was out of his loyalty towards Trump?
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