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re: Businesses can claim refunds for Trump tariffs ruled unconstitutional starting Monday

Posted on 4/19/26 at 7:14 pm to
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
10660 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 7:14 pm to
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The costs to pay lawyers would likely exceed the underlying refund amount.



That is the only certainty.

Lawyers will get paid.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65819 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 7:15 pm to
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So will the list of businesses doing so be made public, so consumers who bought from them can sue them for their refunds


Almost certainly.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
22098 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 7:36 pm to
should have to show on a case by case basis that they didnt pass the tariff on to the consumer via higher prices
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
54709 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 7:57 pm to
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One of the worst SCOTUS decisions ever. So wrong and so stupid.


It was terrible but not necessarily incorrect


They could have worded it in a way where the tariffs could stay in effect pending other avenues
Posted by Shorter Yards
Here and There
Member since Jun 2020
717 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:18 pm to
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The admin being clever and picking the IEEPA was absolutely fricking retarded. I can't believe so many on here defended that idiocy. There were SEVERAL other options that would have clearly authorized these tariffs. What's even crazier is nobody was fired, which makes me assume it was Stephen Miller



It really doesn’t matter. Whether you are an ambulance chaser or a ditch digger, you have no say and you definitely have no control of the situation. It’s okay though, at least you talked about it, that’s your win, right?
Posted by Shorter Yards
Here and There
Member since Jun 2020
717 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:19 pm to
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Lawyers will get paid.


Bunch of ball washing bastards
Posted by Stonehenge
Wakulla Springs
Member since Dec 2014
2679 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 10:08 pm to
“The tariffs will make us all rich!” SMH
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
10660 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 10:34 pm to
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“The tariffs will make us all rich!” SMH


This idiot thinks this has played out.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98044 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 10:35 pm to
quote:

We are expecting a check north of $500,000


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476663 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 7:02 am to
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They could have worded it in a way where the tariffs could stay in effect pending other avenues


No they couldn't

If the act was illegal, then it was illegal.

Do you think it's proper to permit the government to keep engaging in illegality and the sanction/legitimize past illegal behavior?

Did you feel the same way with the Biden vax mandate or student loan forgiveness policies? Did you want the USSC to permit those policies to remain in effect pending the administration trying another statutory avenue? I seriously doubt that.
Posted by LawTalkingGuy
Member since Mar 2025
210 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 8:12 am to
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I suspect very few businesses will file these claims. The costs to pay lawyers would likely exceed the underlying refund amount.


As of last week, over 56,000 companies had filed claims for refunds, totalling over $127 Billion. Not sure what you consider "very few", though.
Posted by LawTalkingGuy
Member since Mar 2025
210 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 8:23 am to
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should have to show on a case by case basis that they didnt pass the tariff on to the consumer via higher prices


And there it is...this board still clinging to the idea that an importer isnt entitled to a refund if they passed their cost on to the consumer.

Some geniuses here even claimed an importer could not legally seek a refund if it recovered its costs elsewhere.

The question of reimbursing end users will be resolved case by case, if at all.

For some big ticket end users it will be easy...the invoice probably included the tariff charge, and you just seek reimbursement from the importer.

For every day consumers where the tarrifs were hidden in the price of the goods, its a little trickier. There is no itemized invoice, but the price went up due to tarrifs. Big retailers would be wise to have a sale, or offer store credit to consumers who purchased items while the tariffs were in effect.
This post was edited on 4/20/26 at 8:24 am
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
5049 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 8:27 am to
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The admin being clever and picking the IEEPA was absolutely fricking retarded. I can't believe so many on here defended that idiocy. There were SEVERAL other options that would have clearly authorized these tariffs.


Because the other statues required a lot of actual work and also had limitations on tariff amounts and their durations.

They would not allow Trump to have a bad front nine and change tariff rates indiscriminately and arbitrarily.
This post was edited on 4/20/26 at 10:10 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138899 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 8:38 am to
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As of last week, over 56,000 companies had filed claims for refunds, totalling over $127 Billion.
WOW!
That is truly surprising.

After the waves of "unjust enrichment" class action suits those corporate filings will generate, companies will be lucky to break even. They'll piss off their customers in the process. Their legal teams will be fat and happy though.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115422 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 8:40 am to
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The admin being clever and picking the IEEPA was absolutely fricking retarded. I can't believe so many on here defended that idiocy.


Three SCOTUS justices did not think it idiocy.

And the majority opinion is weak.

Gorsuch's concurrence was the best opinion and even it conceded the dissent had a good argument.
This post was edited on 4/20/26 at 8:41 am
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
11010 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 8:40 am to
getting a refund will be just as satisfying as getting a house insurance claim for hurricane damage paid.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28133 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 8:43 am to
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They'll piss off their customers in the process.


How's that?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63332 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 8:46 am to
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Are your consumers going to get anything?
Why should they? According to many here consumers don’t pay the tariffs.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138899 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 8:50 am to
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They would not allow Trump to have a bad front nine and change tariff rates indiscriminately and arbitrarily.
IDK about "the bad front nine," but "indiscriminate and arbitrary" is almost assuredly what made the risk of IEEPA worth it. It allowed fluidity in negotiations, and a testing of the waters for international rate tolerances. Once the latter is established, other mechanisms can then be toyed with to approximate previously negotiated levels.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16402 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 8:50 am to
Anyone who thinks that Trump didn’t know this was coming is just an idiot

The guy plays 4d chess

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