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re: Bullet used to kill charlie kirk cant be matched to Tyler Robinson gun.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 1:46 pm to SirWinston
Posted on 3/31/26 at 1:46 pm to SirWinston
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 1:50 pm to dgnx6
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I've probably shot more things than you.
Just so we’re clear, you genuinely believe that one of Charlie’s bones stopped a 30-06?
I don’t want Israel to do anything. They’ve done enough already. The bad intel about weapons of mass destruction that led to us spending trillions of dollars and losing countless lives came from Israel. The dancing Israelis on 9/11 were their intelligence agents. The Epstein files are littered with the term goyim. Look that up. They spit on Christians over there as well. But yes defend them you dense fool.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 1:52 pm to jp4lsu
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The bullet didn't do a 90deg turn
Posted on 3/31/26 at 1:59 pm to TFH
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My man. You’re talking in circles.
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Typically? Come on, man. You’ve already admitted that we do not know some extremely pertinent information. You are also making a massive assumption on what the bullet did and did not hit. Literally THE MOST IMPORTANT INFO as to why the bullet did what they claim it did is not known to us, so why are we trying to cast doubt in the form of some conspiracy?
I’m not talking in circles, you’re conflating possibility with probability.
A .30-06 in that range has more than enough energy to pass through soft tissue, even with bone involved. At the same time, it’s possible that, depending on exact conditions, it wouldn’t exit. Both statements can be true.
Acknowledging unknowns doesn’t mean you can’t discuss what’s likely. My opinion is based on real hunting experience with the same caliber. I never spoke in absolutes or suggested a conspiracy, in fact, in my first post I said I’d like a ballistics expert to explain how a non-exit could happen.
You claimed non-exit at 150 yards is very common…but in reality, that’s not typical for this caliber under normal conditions and soft tissue of a neck.
And apparently, just questioning or trying to understand a non-exit makes me a conspiracy theorist, according to you. You also wanted an apology because I gave an opinion, spoke from real world experience, and asked for an explanation. Seems like you’re the one who’s triggered here.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 2:14 pm to jnethe1
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Just so we’re clear, you genuinely believe that one of Charlie’s bones stopped a 30-06?
How much money you wanna bet that the 30 06 bullet fragmented and was inside Charlie?
Posted on 3/31/26 at 2:16 pm to bstew3006
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You claimed non-exit at 150 yards is very common
No, he didn’t. Why are you lying?
Posted on 3/31/26 at 2:16 pm to bstew3006
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possibility with probability.
Possibility is all that matters. Probability does not.
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You claimed non-exit at 150 yards is very common
Nope. I said it’s possible.
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just questioning or trying to understand a non-exit makes me a conspiracy theorist
You haven’t shown any attempt to understand why or how it could have happened, you just keep arguing that it’s not likely.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 2:23 pm to the808bass
So the 30-06 fragmented, and none of the fragments created an exit wound? This is your stance?
Posted on 3/31/26 at 3:13 pm to TFH
I never denied possibility, but what’s generally expected for a .30-06 at typical velocity on soft tissue of a neck is probability, not certainty. My original post explicitly asked a ballistics expert to explain how a non-exit could happen, not to speculate; I’m simply comparing that to real-world experience with the same caliber. Calling me a conspiracy theorist for reasoning from experience is hypocritical, especially when you assert possibilities without providing any evidence for your claimed expertise which is pure speculation on your part.
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 3:17 pm to bstew3006
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I never denied possibility, but what’s generally expected for a .30-06 at typical velocity on soft tissue of a neck is probability, not certainty
Are you suggesting he aimed for the neck?
Posted on 3/31/26 at 3:21 pm to DeBoar
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you suggesting he aimed for the neck?
I never made any claim on where he was aiming.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 3:23 pm to TFH
Wait now im getting confused.
There was a very large exit wound from the front of CKs neck (from basically the same direction that TR allegedly shot him from), right?
(Obviously I don't buy that narrative - I think that wound came from a second close range weapon disguised as a phone or mic) but it seems important that were on the same page about the facts.
There was a very large exit wound from the front of CKs neck (from basically the same direction that TR allegedly shot him from), right?
(Obviously I don't buy that narrative - I think that wound came from a second close range weapon disguised as a phone or mic) but it seems important that were on the same page about the facts.
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 3:27 pm to SirWinston
One of the alpha redneck youtube gun guys right after the murder said there is no way it was a 30.06 wound.
I know Chris Martenson did some dispassionate analysis.
I browse lewrockwell.com once in a while and they had something a month or two ago about his mic being blown up.
I know Chris Martenson did some dispassionate analysis.
I browse lewrockwell.com once in a while and they had something a month or two ago about his mic being blown up.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 3:34 pm to Bunk Moreland
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his mic being blown up.
That’s just dumb. it was obviously Candace Owens with the exploding blow dart
This post was edited on 3/31/26 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 3/31/26 at 3:37 pm to Bunk Moreland
Heres a good video from Martinson - he says its basically impossible that Robinson took the kill shot
Relevant portion to our discussion at 10:45
Relevant portion to our discussion at 10:45
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 3:38 pm to SirWinston
Lets explain what Andrew Colvet stated about the bullet path.
Somebody posted that he said it blew out 2or 3 vertebra and exploded his hear and fragments dispersed above the impact point.
That amount of energy in a 30-06 making a turn down spine and then blowing fragments in the neck vertebra above where it struck initially. That is more unbelievable than some of us saying it is "hard to believe there is no exit wound from a 30-06 at short distance".
The only way I can see fragments making it up it to his upper neck vertebra as the first Dr examiner said is if it fragmented at impact and then sprayed the vertebrae with fragments. That would likley require the bullet htting a collar bone and fragmenting. Because it isn't going to fragment hitting that soft of flesh in the neck.
But this is not what Colvet is saying happened. His claim is more spectacular than some of us not believing it was a 30-06 because of not exit wound.
Somebody posted that he said it blew out 2or 3 vertebra and exploded his hear and fragments dispersed above the impact point.
That amount of energy in a 30-06 making a turn down spine and then blowing fragments in the neck vertebra above where it struck initially. That is more unbelievable than some of us saying it is "hard to believe there is no exit wound from a 30-06 at short distance".
The only way I can see fragments making it up it to his upper neck vertebra as the first Dr examiner said is if it fragmented at impact and then sprayed the vertebrae with fragments. That would likley require the bullet htting a collar bone and fragmenting. Because it isn't going to fragment hitting that soft of flesh in the neck.
But this is not what Colvet is saying happened. His claim is more spectacular than some of us not believing it was a 30-06 because of not exit wound.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 3:38 pm to the808bass
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No, he didn’t. Why are you lying?
He’s not debating in good faith. He’s just trying to troll. Poorly.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 3:39 pm to jnethe1
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So the 30-06 fragmented, and none of the fragments created an exit wound?
You in or out?
Posted on 3/31/26 at 3:43 pm to jp4lsu
I thought it was a Mauser round.
Posted on 3/31/26 at 3:49 pm to TFH
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He’s not debating in good faith
Explain
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He’s just trying to troll. Poorly.
What in any of my post is trolling?
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