re: Bullet used to kill charlie kirk cant be matched to Tyler Robinson gun.

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It was his neck, about 12”-13” in circumference.

That’s like shooting a small dog, let’s say a mini schmuazer. But since you have shot deer and hog, go shoot an 80lb doe or small 50lb hog with 155g 30-06 and see what happens.

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Does a small dog have a bone in its body this thick?



James Earl Ray used a .30-06 at closer range to shoot Martin Luther King in his "12"-13" circumference" neck. There was no exit wound. I guess it is a conundrum?

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Did he confess?
yes.

Suspect arrested in Charlie Kirk killing, Tyler Robinson, confessed to his father LINK

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The article says that is him in the photos. He didn't admit to the killing.

You’re arguing details I already acknowledged. We don’t know grain or type, just caliber. and yes, that absolutely matters (soft point vs ballistic tip vs FMJ, etc.).

But the broader point still stands

A 30-06 in the 150–180gr range, even at realistic velocities of 2700-3000fps has more than enough energy to pass through soft tissue, even with bone involved. That’s not controversial….it’s why it’s been a standard hunting round. And my example of small dog, coyote etc stands. How many of those have you shot with 30-06 and not had an exit wound?

Fragmentation doesn’t automatically mean “no exit.” Even with expansion or partial fragmentation, exits are still common…especially on a relatively small cross-section like a neck. We’re not talking about a shoulder shot on an elk, we’re talking about soft tissue and vertebrae.

So sure, is it possible there’s no exit depending on exact conditions? Yes.

But is it what you’d typically expect from that caliber, distance, and target area? Absolutely not and That’s the only point I’m raising.

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Now that you have no leg to stand on I will accept your apology for espousing your opinion with no actual basis for the formation of said opinion.

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Pfff, grow up, little man.

In MLK murder, the bullet hit the jaw first according to what 808bass posted. Fragmenting at that point is plausible and energy disipating thru the fragmentation and being dispersed.

This is completely diff scenario than CK's. The bullet didn't do a 90deg turn and blow out a series of vertebra. I don't see how this is possible when entering the softist part on a body.

ETA to clarify I'm speaking about MLK in this post.

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Still did not confess to killing.

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This will not affect Jp’s views on the case because his views aren’t rational.

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There is more evidence for him confessing than there is for the “bullet not matching.”

Which one do you believe?

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The Ballistic Gap: You can’t "magic" a bullet into a different rifling pattern. If the ATF—the gold standard for this specific data—can't link them, the rifle is effectively a decoy.

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Hold on boys. We got an expert here.

Jooooos

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Not going through the neck is the most suspicious fact of this case.

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No it's not.

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Still did not confess to killing. He said it was him in the photos. I never read an official report that said he confessed. It is always "allegedly" confessed.
I'm not saying this kid is not messed up or even that isn't him on the roof, or him on the stairs, I just can't believe a 30-06 round doesn't go thru a human neck from that distance. Then there are other suspicious things in the case as well. But this is what stood out as really strange.

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So who killed Charlie.

I personally love that people that know nothing about guns offer their opinions on this. The idea that a 30-06 would be “miraculously” stopped by one of his bones is laughable.

No exit wound video