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re: BREAKING: Trump will sign executive order shortly about social media companies

Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:11 pm to
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
14436 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:11 pm to
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It's a new age. Infomation is no longer found just on CBS nightly broadcast. At some point, the govt is going to have identify how this applies to America. Other countries are using social media to completely suppress thought. In america, the companies them selves are choosing which content to curate.


This. I would look at social media as the digital "town square". Govt can't limit free speech in the real "town square"(unless it's inciting violence) but these social media sites are definitely deciding which views/opinions are "acceptable".
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80313 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:12 pm to
He bans me for my content and restricts my ability to post outright.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15666 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:12 pm to
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Chicken lets you post. He doesn’t editorialize our posts.


or in the case of Reddit - completely quarantine your sub and remove moderators to completely suppress your sub. Reddits CEO has also been caught curating users posts. I hope they are slammed by this as well.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21827 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:12 pm to
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Without 230 protections, chicken has to remove your post about Obama being a terrorist or Michelle having a cock lest he risk being found liable for its libelous content

Multiply that over the entire internet and what do you have? A barren wasteland


Or they can just not censor based on political views and keep their platform status.

Which one do you think they'll choose?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140643 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:13 pm to
So he’s dishes out hints and you....
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99004 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:13 pm to
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Chicken lets you post. He doesn’t editorialize our posts


He and the mods do delete posts and threads and do ban users, but they do it based on terms of use agreed to by all of us.

That's still different than editorializing in response to posts, which is what Twitter has done.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:14 pm to
The only person being libeled and defamed on Twitter is Joe Scarborough, by the President.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11677 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:14 pm to
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He and the mods do delete posts and threads and do ban users, but they do it based on terms of use agreed to by all of us.


Is there section of the terms where you can’t criticize Q? Because the Q mod actively deletes and anchors critical threads.
Posted by theronswanson
House built with my hands
Member since Feb 2012
2976 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:15 pm to
Muh limited government
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49518 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:16 pm to
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He and the mods do delete posts and threads and do ban users, but they do it based on terms of use agreed to by all of us.


And twitter, FB, youtube etc do not have restrictions for conservative/right wing views in their TOS.

Yet the ban or demonetize people daily for violating their version of leftthink.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21827 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:16 pm to
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He and the mods do delete posts and threads and do ban users, but they do it based on terms of use agreed to by all of us.



An awful lot of people seem to think being a platform means you can't have any rules on a forum. Other than willful ignorance I'm not sure why they think that.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7606 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:16 pm to
I disagree Gnome.

Many Americans, of all political leanings, do not want censorship. Trump is merely shining a bright light on the bias of Twitter.

Now, I don’t think he will be successful with an order, but that’s not the goal.

Trump is not only exposing the bias, he is also exposing how the media runs with conspiracy theories and lies.

All he needs his to get the middle of the road voter to see it and vote against bias.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:16 pm to
Where is the terms of use? I’ve been looking for that. Can you link it?

Never mind, found it.
I see mentions of personal attacks and threatening violence.... and “flaming.”
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 6:20 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49518 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:17 pm to
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The only person being libeled and defamed on Twitter is Joe Scarborough, by the President.


Are you on twitter?

If so I'll happily log in and hurl some juicy insults at you.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40352 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:17 pm to
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Until that happens, Gab will never ever be a serious competitor. It's dumb to think they can do it another way. Twitter is an absolute monster right now.




I agree. I'm only arguing that it can happen not that it will happen. Tech companies being to big to fail is only a thing if they convenience us that it's so. That's how they keep their monopoly by making people feel they have no alternative.


quote:

It’s like switching from an iPhone to an Andriod



Well I've always been with Andriod so I don't have to switch. iPhone's suck because they aren't compatible with anything that isn't also Apple. I don't even think you can by a non-Apple charge cord to work with an iPhone.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80313 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:18 pm to
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An awful lot of people seem to think being a platform means you can't have any rules on a forum. Other than willful ignorance I'm not sure why they think that.


Show me where in the Twitter TOS it mentions conservatives or political views.

It doesn’t. It’s a bunch of “harmful content” and “community standards” buzzwords that they can define and apply as they see fit
Posted by Microtiger
Ithaca, New York
Member since Nov 2010
1435 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:18 pm to
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I doubt TD will be effected by this.


It absolutely would be affected - this and every other forum with open posting would need clear cut rules and stricter moderation to prevent being held liable for anything a user could post.

I don't think posts calling Obama a terrorist or talking about Michelle's cock would cross the line, but there is a grey area for sure a little further down the line. Someone could post something legitimately illegal (CP always is used as the obvious example here) that only stays up for ten minutes, but the instant it was posted, the admins could be held liable.

A bad actor could take an entire site down by posting illegal images on purpose.
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 6:22 pm
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40352 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:19 pm to
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Chicken lets you post. He doesn’t editorialize our posts.



I've actually had posts of my editorialized before. Specially thread title that were edited and changed from how I originally had them.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21827 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:20 pm to
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I don't even think you can by a non-Apple charge cord to work with an iPhone.


Even Boomers understand tech better than that.
Posted by Jinglebob
Member since Jan 2020
948 posts
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:20 pm to
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Because the Q mod actively deletes and anchors critical threads.


My understanding is they anchor/delete threads on the main board about Q because they want it all kept in the one thread.

Kind of like if you went to the soccer board and started threads about TV shows, it would get whacked too.
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