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re: Breaking: Kari Lake loses trial to overturn Arizona Governor election - Vows to appeal

Posted on 12/24/22 at 4:55 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129614 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 4:55 pm to
I’m not interested in second guessing Lake’s lawyers. It may help you sleep better.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129614 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 4:56 pm to
The issue is adjudicated ballots. Lake’s lawyers might not have figured it out. I don’t care if they have or not.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
23000 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 5:02 pm to
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I’m not interested in second guessing Lake’s lawyers.

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The issue is adjudicated ballots. Lake’s lawyers might not have figured it out.

Makes sense.

But on adjudicated ballots, it was discussed at some length at trial. It's not the smoking gun some believe it to be based on the fact there weren't enough to make up the difference.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129614 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 5:04 pm to
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It's not the smoking gun some believe it to be based on the fact there weren't enough to make up the difference.


How many adjudicated ballots were there?
Posted by Commander Rabb
Member since Feb 2020
1366 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 5:05 pm to
Judge made his decision before the trial even started.
Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 5:08 pm to
Amen. It has nothing to do with the merits of the case; even the progs on here know the election was more screwed up than a football bat, from several angles
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
56490 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 5:09 pm to
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There are always technical glitches in an election. If your standard is there will never be an issue of any sort, then you will never be happy with an election. They are ran by humans so there naturally be mistakes and errors. As long as it’s not enough to change the result, which there is zero proof anything that happened here came close to making up a 17k deficit, then the election stands. That’s how it works. You don’t redo everything because of issues that don’t change the result.


We'll never know because the courts are absolutely scared shitless of really digging into the evidence and claims of election fraud and shenanigans. The global reputation of US federal elections being the gold standard is on the line and there's likely no judge who wants to get sucked into that shite show.. Can you imagine the hesitancy of any judge mulling over a decision to take on the LWO DC Establishment and their enforcers in the FBI/DOJ? Because ultimately that's who any judge who decides to allow a case to proceed dealing with election shenanigans would be butting heads with.
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
25111 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 5:10 pm to
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Another courts time and money wasted by cultists.




Exactly!
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26834 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 5:12 pm to
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admit it, you had a special alert set on your phone for these results so you could post this with full on glee. don't lie. tell the truth.


The truth is I have “CNN Breaking News” alerts on my phone and this came through as one of them.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 5:19 pm to
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The truth is I have “CNN Breaking News” alerts on my phone and this came through as one of them.


Me too!

But I first got the news from a friend (registered Independent btw) who excitedly texted me about it
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 5:24 pm to
Muh Stolen Election fails again. What a fricking surprise.

Eventually, The Cult has to understand that the people just don't want their pathetic RINO candidates, right?
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 5:34 pm to
Plaintiff needed to prove by clear and convincing evidence, each element to be entitled to relief: That the alleged misconduct – whether the BOD printer irregularities, or the ostensible failure to abide by county election procedures – was an intentional Findley, 35 Ariz. at 269.

"clear and convincing” means that the evidence is highly and substantially more likely to be true than untrue.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45273 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 5:35 pm to
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Her lawyers did a poor job.

/thread
Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 5:48 pm to
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We'll never know because the courts are absolutely scared shitless of really digging into the evidence and claims of election fraud and shenanigans. The global reputation of US federal elections being the gold standard is on the line and there's likely no judge who wants to get sucked into that shite show.. Can you imagine the hesitancy of any judge mulling over a decision to take on the LWO DC Establishment and their enforcers in the FBI/DOJ? Because ultimately that's who any judge who decides to allow a case to proceed dealing with election shenanigans would be butting heads with.


Or the judge simply took a bribe. Can you imagine how much Soros money would get thrown at him to keep AZ from being the first Domino?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
170416 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 5:48 pm to
purjury was committed in the trial LIVE in testimony.

should the lawyers have pounced on this, or should the act have spoken for itself?

it matters not

it looks like the court will sanction Kari Lake LINK

how dare anyone question the establishment or Hobbs!

Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2892 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 5:52 pm to
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This right here... In this case they would had to have open and shut evidence.. Like someone openly admitting they cheated to have a new election.. These voters won't admit they were wrong but they will be punching their pillows at night..


The possibility exists that he wanted to toss Lake a bone and hear the case knowing she would appeal his decision. He might think the right thing was to get her a new election but didn’t want to be the one to pull the trigger confident that she’d win on appeal.

I know that sounds a lot like a conspiracy theory but at this point who knows.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 5:55 pm to
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looks like the court will sanction Kari Lake


They have already sanctioned her and her attorneys for other frivolous suits that were thrown out. Why do you think she has been begging for money?
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
56490 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 5:56 pm to
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purjury was committed in the trial LIVE in testimony. should the lawyers have pounced on this, or should the act have spoken for itself? it matters not it looks like the court will sanction Kari Lake LINK how dare anyone question the establishment or Hobbs!


Nothing will change until the unrighteous are confronted by those who seek and demand righteousness.....it will eventually happen and the vast majority of Americans will be caught completely off guard. We caught a brief glimpse on J6.
This post was edited on 12/24/22 at 5:57 pm
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
43339 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 6:15 pm to
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No. He’s convincing himself that our voting process isn’t corrupted because he doesn’t want to consider the alternative. That’s not my side.


Probably half of the republicans out there want to put the toothpaste back in the tube and act like Bush was on their side.

They sleep easier that way, but they are fricking their kids and grandkids.



Posted by Chinese Bandit Boy
Member since Jun 2021
975 posts
Posted on 12/24/22 at 6:32 pm to
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clear and convincing”


As opposed to by a preponderance of the evidence. Virtually impossible to ever win a lawsuit contesting an election. Not much time to collect evidence and a very high burden of proof. Clear and convincing is almost as heavy a burden as beyond a reasonable doubt.
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