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re: Breaking: CNN reporting that 10 years of Trump’s tax returns have been given to the NYT.

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Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:02 pm to
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Then tell me why anyone should consider it disparaging to do so.
Well I actually highlighted that example because the things that he has done that might have been illegal, usually were when his father was bailing him out (like the illegal poker chip sale).
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:03 pm to
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Like I said, your ignorance is on full display.
Ok. You’re great at calling people ignorant, but you’ve yet to actually show you are any less ignorant.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:03 pm to
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Well I actually highlighted that example because the things that he has done that might have been illegal
well it appears he's done a good job keeping it secret from authorities. Good grief.

It appears you have no value-based argument to make. Noted.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35381 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:05 pm to
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well it appears he's done a good job keeping it secret from authorities. Good grief.
I think it was discovered well past the statute of limitations, and I believe they were reprimanded for the poker chip deal decades ago.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:06 pm to
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If they are single member LLCs they are disregarded entities for tax purposes


Not always.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:07 pm to
So, I read the article and was amazed at how little the author seemed to understand relatively basic entity governance and law. Then I looked her up. She has a bachelors degree in political science from Calgary. Now, education certainly does not equal understanding or lack of understanding. However, that author displays a stunning ignorance and arrogance in the assumptions made. I probably wouldn’t use that article, or that author, as authority on anything complex. She just doesn’t understand basics and she assumes smart/prudent planning is nefarious.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 9:08 pm
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:08 pm to
I’m
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I’m not as rich nor ever will be. And while my parents supported me the best they could, they would never have been able to give me tens of millions maybe even hundreds of millions of dollars to bail me out.


So here is your real issue, Jealousy.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:08 pm to
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Not always.


Got me.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:09 pm to
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I think it was discovered well past the statute of limitation
that's so cute.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:09 pm to
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While The Times did not obtain the president’s actual tax returns, it received the information contained in the returns from someone who had legal access to it.


Someone is going down and it won't be Trump.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:10 pm to
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So here is your real issue, Jealousy.
Given the opportunity to tell us his values, he passed.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:11 pm to
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It appears you have no value-based argument to make. Noted.
Ok I’ll make a value-based argument.

A financial advisor was working for a company and Trump was one of their clients. He discovered that the bonds for one of Trump’s casinos were junk, and he warned his own clients about this as was his responsibility.

Trump found out about that and pressured the company to have him say that it was a lie and apologize. He didn’t, and he was no longer employed soon after. And those bonds ended up being junk and people lost hundreds of millions because of it.

So my value-judgement is that this was deplorable behavior on all accounts by Trump, and just one of many examples in his history.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:11 pm to
How did the NYT legally get them?
Posted by ruzil
WNC
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:11 pm to
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Andrew Gillum


So, losers are allow to have hot takes.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:13 pm to
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Ok I’ll make a value-based argument. A financial advisor was working for a company and Trump was one of their clients. He discovered that the bonds for one of Trump’s casinos were junk, and he warned his own clients about this as was his responsibility. Trump found out about that and pressured the company to have him say that it was a lie and apologize. He didn’t, and he was no longer employed soon after. And those bonds ended up being junk and people lost hundreds of millions because of it.


Link? If you got this info from an author like the last one you posted...you likely don’t have the real story.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:14 pm to
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A financial advisor was working for a company and Trump was one of their clients. He discovered that the bonds for one of Trump’s casinos were junk, and he warned his own clients about this as was his responsibility.

Trump found out about that and pressured the company to have him say that it was a lie and apologize. He didn’t, and he was no longer employed soon after. And those bonds ended up being junk and people lost hundreds of millions because of it.

So my value-judgement is that this was deplorable behavior on all accounts by Trump, and just one of many examples in his history.


The way this is written makes me believe you don't understand what you are writing. Can you link to the court filings associated with this alleged fraud?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:16 pm to
Haven’t we already seen these?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:16 pm to
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Link? If you got this info from an author like the last one you posted...you likely don’t have the real story.
Donald Trump’s Blustery 1990 Campaign Against a Wall Street Analyst
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Minutes later, when he called the Janney headquarters, he was told to return to the office immediately and was faxed a letter management had received from Donald Trump earlier that morning. In it, Trump expressed “outrage” at Roffman’s disparaging remarks about the Taj and said that he’d long considered Roffman “an unguided missle (sic)” as an analyst. Trump added that he was “planning to institue (sic) a major lawsuit against your firm unless Mr. Roffman makes a major public apology or is dismissed.” Trump has disclaimed any intention of getting Roffman fired and merely wanted him to be more circumspect in communicating his negative views on the Taj.
I guess he threatened to sue on top of that.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:17 pm to
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The way this is written makes me believe you don't understand what you are writing. Can you link to the court filings associated with this alleged fraud?
I’m trying to write it quickly on my phone, but I didn’t allege fraud, but I linked it above, just like I linked it multiple times on this board years ago.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 9:18 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:18 pm to
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So my value-judgement is that this was deplorable behavior on all accounts by Trump, and just one of many examples in his history.
So you consider hawking your own bonds to be a moral failure?

Ok. So pretending the story is true... Let's suppose Trump sent out a Press Release that said "HEY EVERYONE, MY BONDS ARE WORTHLESS JUNK!!!"

How much profit would those bondholders have made?
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 9:20 pm
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