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re: Bovino just told reporters the suspect was on scene several minutes interfering...

Posted on 1/25/26 at 5:20 pm to
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 5:20 pm to
It's is material. It's the environment inside the state and it has led to a new set of rules applied by the agency.

This will not be considered as a single event.

Due to the dangerous environment put into play by Walz, when the guy was taken down and a gun was seen... that was it. Any motion that even hinted that he could be going for a second weapon, it is justified.

Simply look up the ruling.

Posted by Posstradamus
Member since Jan 2026
62 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 5:21 pm to
Polly want a cracker?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41748 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 5:21 pm to
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He never resisted but I don't expect a boot deepthroater to admit that so you're good.


It’s dumb that you think he magically stood up during a detainment.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 5:22 pm to
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Like 80% of this is false.

What a dumbass. Which parts are false? Be specific. Heres some assistance


Minn shooting 2nd angle

Video showing dead guy directing protest

Video showind dead guy stopping vehicle from leaving after direted by ICE
Posted by Posstradamus
Member since Jan 2026
62 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 5:23 pm to
He's (unlawfully) taken to the ground and remains on all fours, never reaching, never doing anything but staying there. He isn't even defending himself from the pussy blows. However, a bootlicker is gonna lick the boot.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6994 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 5:25 pm to
I think this will explain it better.

quote:

it matters in this particularly case.


I think this is important. "This case" will include the time line I laid out. Just like the DOJ is using the agent who was hit 2 times with a car by protesters 6 months a part.

The second lady died... he shot her. Both of those incidents is part of the case.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41748 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 5:27 pm to
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He's (unlawfully) taken to the ground and remains on all fours,


It was lawful due to the interference.

He was upright and in the process of standing up when he was shot. That would be impossible if he was compliant flat on the ground.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9283 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 5:28 pm to
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Care to tell my exactly why you disagree?


He was interfering with ice activities. That is against the law.

He engaged an officer when the officers was engaged with another individual. (On video)
That’s against the law.

He resisted arrest. (On video)
That’s against the law.

All of this while having a weapon that became apparent during the resisting/fighting. (Was he fighting to get it to fire? Or did it just fall out?)

He wasn’t protesting at some street corner and ice arrived. They sought ICE out and engaged with them while official ice activity was taking place.

He made the decision to challenge ice and it cost him his life.

You may not like it. You can call the officer a murderer and whatever else you feel obliged to do.

The facts remain. Ice is conducting official, lawful activity. If one interjects themselves into this volatile environment, they are breaking the law and if you don’t comply with orders, resist/fight and have a weapon, chances are very high you are going to die.


Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 5:29 pm to
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This will not be considered as a single event.


I’ve never argued otherwise. I’m instead saying none of the previous stuff will be relevant at the end of the day. You believe otherwise. That’s okay.
Posted by Posstradamus
Member since Jan 2026
62 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 5:32 pm to
Nope! Cause there was no interference. That officer just started putting hands on for no reason, then pepper spraying for no reason. Untrained boot.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 5:32 pm to
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Simply look up the ruling.


The ruling in no way is as expansive as you're arguing.

As the court said in Barnes (emphasis added):

quote:

That analysis demands “careful attention to the facts and circumstances” relating to the incident


Which cites Graham. That is what Barnes relies on.

You showed your ignorance by trying to argue relying on Graham was somehow incorrect. Barnes and Graham are not in conflict, and Barnes does not deviate from Graham's standards.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23219 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 5:32 pm to
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And They don’t know that he was.


They assume you are. People that accept that don’t typically get killed by them.

I mean I guess it makes a lot of sense what’s happening in MN, people that have never interacted with a police officer are surprised by the behavior they make very obvious. I remember being a teenager and a cop was giving us a hard time but we obviously weren’t in trouble but every time we would put our hands in our pockets they said “do not reach for your pockets for your protection and mine”…it was ridiculously over the top at the time but I learned the lesson they are a dog that bites.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90763 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 5:34 pm to
Alter tool!
Posted by Posstradamus
Member since Jan 2026
62 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 5:34 pm to
Pure fabrication. He never touched nor approached ICE. Can't even see him say anything to them. Helping a lady up who was just pushed by an ICE officer is not resisting or obstructing. She was not being detained, just assaulted.
Posted by Posstradamus
Member since Jan 2026
62 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 5:34 pm to
One line parrot
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90763 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 5:34 pm to
Amazing how big a twats so many truly are.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90763 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 5:35 pm to
Alter pussy is seeping.
Posted by Posstradamus
Member since Jan 2026
62 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 5:36 pm to
lol k dude. Even most parrots know two or three lines. Not even a smart parrot here.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90763 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 5:37 pm to
Are you by chance an appletini swilling drunk from Alaska's state capital?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 5:40 pm to
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What a dumbass. Which parts are false? Be specific. Heres some assistance


Sure.

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The dead guy was standing in the middle of the street directing people where to put their vehicles.


That’s your opinion.

quote:

The lady that was videoing the shooting from inside her vehicle, was told to move her vehicle


Link?

quote:

The dead guy went to stand in front of her car to keep her from following a lawful command


Lie. I mean you posted a video that proves it’s a lie.

quote:

He called others to stand there too ICE then pushed them to the sidewalk


There were pushed from the street in front of the vehicle. Again a lie.

quote:

The dead guy then grabbed a woman to drag her back in front of the vehicle.


Now you’re just doubling down.

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Thats when ICE sprayed him, and them. The dead guy went into his back pack, and they saw the gun


Ah yes, the backpack that doesn’t exist. Pretti went into this mythical backpack with the gun and was shot when they saw it.

I mean Jesus Robb, 80% lie may have been conservative.

Even someone who thinks the shooting was 100% justified should call out your complete conjecture and lies.
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