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re: Bovino just told reporters the suspect was on scene several minutes interfering...
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:41 pm to slackster
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:41 pm to slackster
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So is the defense in this situation going to talk about a previous case where a guy was standing in the road and killed a LEO?
Yes. The talking points are out
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:41 pm to Posstradamus
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If charlie would have just stayed home, he'd be alive. Guess it's his fault then, right?
Unlike pretty, Charlie was working his job, and didn’t do anything against the law.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:41 pm to slackster
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Y’all act like this is some sort of all or nothing blame game for the parties involved. The deceased was culpable in his own death. I’ve never argued otherwise.
How you entered the thread
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Well then he deserved to be shot.
How about stop being clearly disingenuous
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:41 pm to rocksteady
True
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:41 pm to Megasaurus
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if he was not interfering with a law enforcement activity he would still be alive.
That doesn’t mean someone deserves to be shot. There is a missing step in your logic here. No one is arguing against sitting at home = would be alive today.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:41 pm to rocksteady
Yes that’s me.
Go back and read the context of the thread from 2016 if you’d like. We were discussing criminal culpability. I’d be surprised if anyone is found guilty here. I’d also be shocked if there isn’t a large wrongful death settlement since he was fully disarmed before he was shot.
Go back and read the context of the thread from 2016 if you’d like. We were discussing criminal culpability. I’d be surprised if anyone is found guilty here. I’d also be shocked if there isn’t a large wrongful death settlement since he was fully disarmed before he was shot.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:41 pm to Posstradamus
Just applying the same logic used on this thread snowflake
Not even remotely the same. Hilarious
Not even remotely the same. Hilarious
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:41 pm to rocksteady
This is my first foray into this forum. Why not reply to what I said and refute instead of the ad hom? Too afraid to look stupid on an anonymous forum? Scared it would hurt your credibility in your own mind?
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:43 pm to slackster
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Go back and read the context of the thread from 2016 if you’d like. We were discussing criminal culpability. I’d be surprised if anyone is found guilty here. I’d also be shocked if there isn’t a large wrongful death settlement since he was fully disarmed before he was shot.
Most importantly, the public opinion is likely to shift to being even more unfavorable to the admin's immigration strategy.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:43 pm to Posstradamus
Charlie Kirk was not interfering in a federal operation while armed and then resisting arrest. Charlie Kirk was doing something predictable- something he’d done time and time again. He was known to be a sane calm individual. He was literally TALKING.
These lefty rioters, on the other hand, are known to be violent and unhinged. They openly state they want to kill ICE agents, and this one was armed and was breaking the law. He was an active threat. What planet are you on?!
These lefty rioters, on the other hand, are known to be violent and unhinged. They openly state they want to kill ICE agents, and this one was armed and was breaking the law. He was an active threat. What planet are you on?!
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:43 pm to slackster
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Okay.
So is the defense in this situation going to talk about a previous case where a guy was standing in the road and killed a LEO?
No. The defense will be the atmosphere that has been created by the leaders of the state. They are on record. Their words and their requests.
That is what is laid out in the OP. From the point where they called for people to take to the streets, what happened? They did and they started attacking ICE.
Those attacks are up...DHS reported an 8,000% increase in death threats against ICE personnel, including bounties placed on agents' heads on platforms like TikTok. Reported assaults on ICE officers rose by over 1,300% (275 incidents in 2025 vs. 19 in 2024). DHS tracked a 3,200% increase in "vehicular assaults,"
That is the totality that will be considered. The environment created by the leaders of the state is organized and it is putting the lives of LEO in jeopardy along with citizens.
Per the SCOTUS, it's no longer "in the moment" any more. Totality
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:44 pm to OceanMan
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How about stop being clearly disingenuous
There is nothing disingenuous about that reply. Standing in the road blocking traffic changes nothing material about the events that lead up to him being shot.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
Wait wut?
It’s not relevant that he was aggressively agitating for hours before the incident?
Balkanization needs to be on the table
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It does nothing to address the incident in question. That stuff isn't relevant
It’s not relevant that he was aggressively agitating for hours before the incident?
Balkanization needs to be on the table
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:45 pm to Posstradamus
Yes, in this retard game of yours, anyone who stayed home, in hindsight, on the day they would be killed elsewhere, would probably avoid being murdered by assassins while sitting in a chair and also probably avoid attacking LEOs with a gun.
What other brain busters you got fagot ;)
What other brain busters you got fagot ;)
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:45 pm to deathvalleytiger10
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Not even remotely the same. Hilarious
It's telling that people have to pretend Pretti broke a law. It's all on video. He was exercising his rights. Sucks that you don't believe in the constitution but I can't say that I'm surprised.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
I see you still can't pin down the time constraints on the ruling. You understand why you can't right? Because they did not put one on it.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:45 pm to Smokeyone
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Balkanization needs to be on the table
No possible.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:46 pm to BCreed1
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I see you still can't pin down the time constraints on the ruling. You understand why you can't right? Because they did not put one on it.
I gave you 2 shots to understand the ruling. You refused. There is no point in me trying again.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:46 pm to Old Money
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That doesn’t mean someone deserves to be shot. There is a missing step in your logic here. No one is arguing against sitting at home = would be alive today.
The step you are skipping is the physical resistance to detainment
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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It does nothing to address the incident in question. That stuff isn't relevant
Of course it addresses the incident in question, you twit. It establishes him as an armed hostile. JFC. SMH.
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