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Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
21137 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:47 pm to
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No possible.


I feel like we are not experiencing the same reality as the left anymore. Divorce would make the most sense
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:47 pm to
I honestly don’t understand what you’re trying to say here.

The guy was shot because one agent took his gun and another probably mistook it as Pretti’s hand. Criminal? Probably not. Wrongful death? Almost certainly.

I don’t see what dumbass Walz has to do with the actual facts of the case.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25893 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:47 pm to
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How about stop being clearly disingenuous


You have a better chance of your cat doing your taxes than him not being disingenuous.
Posted by Posstradamus
Member since Jan 2026
62 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:48 pm to
The thing is, I don't believe Charlie should have been murdered. I think he should have been able to exercise his rights and I do not think he broke any laws. He is not responsible for his own murder. Neither is Pretti because he too did not break any laws and was executed. So many on this thread saying he could have prevented his own death by staying home, but that him leaving his house to exercise his rights isn't why he was killed. He was murdered by an untrained ICE officer in a bad shooting. The responsibility lies on that shooter, not Pretti for exercising his rights.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41748 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:48 pm to
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Of course it addresses the incident in question, you twit. It establishes him as an armed hostile. JFC. SMH.


Yep. It provides more context to better understand the situation.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:48 pm to
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I feel like we are not experiencing the same reality as the left anymore. Divorce would make the most sense

Yeah you crazies on the poles are making life bad for the people who aren't suffering from partisan brain rot

Doesn't make Balkanization possible
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
41790 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:48 pm to
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The step you are skipping is the physical resistance to detainment


Can you link me to where I said that in this thread?

Sitting at home is a completely different argument, the whole purpose of talking about this is the situation itself. Not a 4th dimension where something that never happened should be debated.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9283 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:48 pm to
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He was exercising his rights.


He has a right to interfere with duties of police officers?
He has a right to resist/fight officers while having a deadly weapon?

What world do you live in? You can’t be this stupid. Can you?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:49 pm to
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I don’t see what dumbass Walz has to do with the actual facts of the case.

It doesn't, but its' a talking point they can use to deflect blame from their side/in-group and focus on blaming the opponent/out-group.

Nothing more.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42430 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:49 pm to
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"wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement"

That’s one of the narratives they are going with. That ice prevented a mass shooting. He and christi gnome read the same statements.


You don't know he wasn't.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:49 pm to
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Of course it addresses the incident in question, you twit. It establishes him as an armed hostile. JFC. SMH.


They had no clue he was armed at that time. SMH.
Posted by berrycajun
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
7223 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:49 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 4:52 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:49 pm to
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You don't know he wasn't.


Holy shite
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6994 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:50 pm to
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I gave you 2 shots to understand the ruling. You refused. There is no point in me trying again.



NO NO.. No you don't SPF. You ran. You can not pin point the time frame allowed because they did not set one. Period.

You also tried to sell the board on Graham and you were clueless that it had been expanded 9-0 by SCOTUS in Barnes.


THAT is why you are running. That is why you can not find a time frame.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:51 pm to
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NO NO.. No you don't SPF. You ran.

No. I'm here.

Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
13181 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:51 pm to
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They had no clue he was armed at that time.


Which made it all the more dangerous.

They are all armed until proven they are not.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41748 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:52 pm to
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They had no clue he was armed at that time. SMH.


But they knew he was an active agitator, which is important context.
Posted by Posstradamus
Member since Jan 2026
62 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:53 pm to
Broke no laws.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25857 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:53 pm to
One of the videos I saw looked like the woman who the BP agent pushed out of the way right before the shooting and it looked like she was harassing the agents across the street from where she ultimately ended up pushed down. I’ll withhold further judgement until I see more video, but she doesn’t appear to have been pushed as some random bullying act like the anti-ICE people are claiming.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:53 pm to
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You don't know he wasn't.

And They don’t know that he was.

They warn the public and others about making speculations before all of the information is out. However, in the same breath, they do exactly what they tell others not to do.

I also don’t know for sure that he wasn’t a plant by Santa Claus
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 5:02 pm
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