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re: Bovino just told reporters the suspect was on scene several minutes interfering...
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:16 pm to slackster
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:16 pm to slackster
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Well then he deserved to be shot
Things happen when you don’t obey lawful orders.
Why aren’t you in MN supporting your people? Not that important to you?
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:18 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Far more than Ashli Babbitt, Charlie Kirk or Donald Trump.
Dude I don’t think any of those people deserved to be shot. Such a strawman.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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to protect LEO at the expense of citizens.
Not at all. Everything this guy did led to his death. You can’t interject yourself to the level he did and expect officers to just wait for you to pull the trigger. It was well beyond that. He did not die because a law protects LEO. He died because he allowed buffoons to lead him to believe that carrying a weapon, disrupting police activities and then resisting/fighting multiple officers was a legitimate right he had.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:19 pm to I20goon
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whether or not they had an operational reason to be on that side of the street or not is simply extraneous information that does not matter and is irrelevant because she was impeding a federal law enforcement officer in the execution of his duties
These two women were on the other side of the road feet away from officers, after they detained an illegal. The officer made sure they ended up on the side where shite went down. They were not there for knitting classes.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Which you didn't disprove
No, You ae the one who said stuff like this
quote:And you are wrong but I fully understand that you won't be able to admit it and probably don't even understand it
I'm addressing how your points are not relevant
quote:I find this to be amazing. In all of our interactions over the last few months or so, your takes are just as bad as they've always been. You have apparently learned NOTHING. How is that possible SFP? You've improved NONE. Either you are intentionally being obtuse or you are incapable of improving due to some mental/emotional deficiency. No normal, rational, sane person can stay this stupidly wrong even after being shown the problem
I'm trying to educate you
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:22 pm to grizzlylongcut
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Maybe, maybe not. But he 100% wouldn’t have gotten killed had he not been actively interfering with lawful operations of federal officers.
Yes. I’m not sure any reasonable person would disagree.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Unsurprisingly, you have yet to recant your idiotic take on that subject. Why is that?
Didn't you bring up the 14th Amendment in this thread?
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:24 pm to OceanMan
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This all started by you saying that prior contact is irrelevant, which is as absurd as your attempt to try and box in the “scene”
What he meant was that prior events which go against his argument are irrelevant, but not those which support his argument.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:24 pm to slackster
You ask retarded questions, you'll get called out on it.
The 'deserved it' nonsense is the true strawman.
He needlessly inserted himself into a situation where there was zero chance of his obvious goals, getting ICE to stop rounding up illegals and violent criminals, of being achieved.
He PUT HIMSELF in a group that's stated goal was to impede and harass LE officials from doing their lawful duty.
He also brought a loaded pistol.
Then, while participating in running interference. got into a physical altercation. Again, 100% avoidable. HE DID THIS.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:24 pm to slackster
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Well then he deserved to be shot.
The same people that thought Kirk deserved to die because of words are now shaken. What a time to be alive.
Go join the war. Your brothers are dying and you are behind a keyboard.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:24 pm to loogaroo
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What did he lie about specifically?
"wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement"
That’s one of the narratives they are going with. That ice prevented a mass shooting. He and christi gnome read the same statements.
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:25 pm to RobbBobb
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The dead guy was standing in the middle of the street directing people where to put their vehicles. The lady that was videoing the shooting from inside her vehicle, was told to move her vehicle The dead guy went to stand in front of her car to keep her from following a lawful command. He called others to stand there too ICE then pushed them to the sidewalk. The dead guy then grabbed a woman to drag her back in front of the vehicle. Thats when ICE sprayed him, and them. The dead guy went into his back pack, and they saw the gun
Like 80% of this is false.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:26 pm to NC_Tigah
He's running. He has backed himself into a corner.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:26 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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You ask retarded questions, you'll get called out on it. The 'deserved it' nonsense is the true strawman. He needlessly inserted himself into a situation where there was zero chance of his obvious goals, getting ICE to stop rounding up illegals and violent criminals, of being achieved. He PUT HIMSELF in a group that's stated goal was to impede and harass LE officials from doing their lawful duty. He also brought a loaded pistol. Then, while participating in running interference. got into a physical altercation. Again, 100% avoidable. HE DID THIS.
He did it
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:27 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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The same people that thought Kirk deserved to die because of words are now shaken. What a time to be alive.
Surely you don’t mean that about me. Look up my comments on the Kirk assassination. It’s the exact opposite of what you’re insinuating you POS.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:28 pm to slackster
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Like 80% of this is false.
It's getting to the point of being scary
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:29 pm to slackster
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Look up my comments on the Kirk assassination. It’s the exact opposite of what you’re insinuating you POS.
So you were one of the few progressives that didn’t openly cheer?
Nice!
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
Still waiting on the time frame established by the SCOTUS that you demand is there.
Post it SPF. Is the standard now seconds. Minutes... hours??? days? Months?? Come on QUOTE the SCOTUS on it.
Post it SPF. Is the standard now seconds. Minutes... hours??? days? Months?? Come on QUOTE the SCOTUS on it.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:31 pm to idlewatcher
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Things happen when you don’t obey lawful orders.
Y’all act like this is some sort of all or nothing blame game for the parties involved. The deceased was culpable in his own death. I’ve never argued otherwise.
On the other hand, there are many here suggesting he was 100% responsible for it and that’s objectively false. He can be at fault AND the agents could have fricked up. In this case that’s exactly what appears to have happened.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 4:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
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And that's a problem. Legally, the LEO may be covered b/c the law is so slanted to protect LEO at the expense of citizens.
So please just stop with this legal lecture. Come one man. I’m glad you finally admitted to your bias but you sure do waste people’s time with pretending to debate laws and other objective things when that isn’t really what’s fueling your engagement.
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I agree with you THESE facts are relevant. What I'm disagreeing with is the factors outside of this incident being relevant.
Well I saw you do disagree with some irrelevant things too, but look up at the title of the thread. Minutes on the scene are words that are used and you have argued for a specific scene to exclude minutes that lead up to the event.
I would maybe even support you once in a while if I EVER saw you admit to being an idiot and just arguing to be a jackass. Here is logic for you: there is no way that the person that posts by far the most is not ever wrong.
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