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re: Bongino: “What I’ve learned in our investigations has shocked me to my core”
Posted on 7/26/25 at 7:01 pm to Rip Torn
Posted on 7/26/25 at 7:01 pm to Rip Torn
quote:Obviously not. This would be one of the most laughable beliefs of all time.
just because he is working for Trump that he is immune to corruption
Posted on 7/26/25 at 7:01 pm to davyjones
Check SFP’s link for exactly what you’re asking for RE: PA.
Even if he hadn’t linked that, this history referencing the states where charges were filed requires no additional context:
If you can point out an inaccuracy or speculative claim, I’m all ears.
Even if he hadn’t linked that, this history referencing the states where charges were filed requires no additional context:
quote:
The Democratic slate was not secret, for one. In 1960, there was an active legal challenge, and Democratic electors labeled themselves as contingent upon the recount outcome. It was an actual “alternate” (not fake) slate, presented above board with contingencies.
In 2020, official certifications had already declared Biden the winner & the Trump electors met in secret in the charged cases — submitting documents claiming to be the official electors.
Those slates were presented as valid and not contingent upon cases or recounts.
If you can point out an inaccuracy or speculative claim, I’m all ears.
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 7/26/25 at 7:07 pm to VoxDawg
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You could've just showed us a picture of your NPR tote bag.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 7:47 pm to DeathByTossDive225
Maybe I overlooked it, but I still didn’t see any specific language from the decision making prosecutor. And neither context nor similar past instances or cases can or will suffice.
I’m sure you’ve seen news releases from various government officials who are the specific decision makers in the case they happen to be speaking about in that particular instance, it’s typically a high profile case and for a litany of possible reasons they decide it prudent to let the public know “on the record” exactly why they made whatever decision it was they made in that case - to pursue charges or not, which charges, and to an extent why. THAT’S a fact in terms of why or why not charges were brought in a given case. Again, anything else (save certain exceptions such as “Well statute of limitations had clearly barred prosecution” which are blatantly obvious) is speculation.
I’m sure you’ve seen news releases from various government officials who are the specific decision makers in the case they happen to be speaking about in that particular instance, it’s typically a high profile case and for a litany of possible reasons they decide it prudent to let the public know “on the record” exactly why they made whatever decision it was they made in that case - to pursue charges or not, which charges, and to an extent why. THAT’S a fact in terms of why or why not charges were brought in a given case. Again, anything else (save certain exceptions such as “Well statute of limitations had clearly barred prosecution” which are blatantly obvious) is speculation.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 8:38 pm to davyjones
This is a lot to split hairs over considering it’s the one state in the discussion wherein charges were not filed. Charges weren’t filed because what happened there wasn’t illegal, so why fixate there?
I’m more interested in contrasting 1960 vs. 2020 in the instances where charges were filed. It’s not a subtle distinction. One is a story of standard procedure, the other blatantly illegal conspiracy.
I’m more interested in contrasting 1960 vs. 2020 in the instances where charges were filed. It’s not a subtle distinction. One is a story of standard procedure, the other blatantly illegal conspiracy.
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:09 pm to davyjones
quote:
but I still didn’t see any specific language from the decision making prosecutor.
quote:
“These ‘fake ballots’ included a conditional clause that they were only to be used if a court overturned the results in Pennsylvania, which did not happen,” Shapiro said. “Though their rhetoric and policy were intentionally misleading and purposefully damaging to our democracy, based on our initial review, our office does not believe this meets the legal standards for forgery.”
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:11 pm to davyjones
Ok. The entire origin of Vox’s bullshite is a quote from Kevin Greenberg — which in the original context, is specifically explaining why PA was different from Michigan, Georgia, Arizona, and Nevada. SFP’s first, sourced comment literally quotes DeMarco in the quoted text.
Any more questions?
Any more questions?
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 9:17 pm
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:13 pm to hawgfaninc
quote:The "I have some secret info but I won't share it now but I may share it later" always turns out to be legit!
Bongino: “What I’ve learned in our investigations has shocked me to my core”
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:18 pm to hawgfaninc
I could give 2 shats about one's politics - if that which is alleged is true every darn one of them need to be expelled from society for the duration of their days. Don't give 2 shats about the rule of law much less 'We the People' and if one can't or refuses to see it....expel yourself as we don't need you ..
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:19 pm to hawgfaninc
"Seriously, when i found out that Epstein actually did kill himself and he had 0 clients, it shook me to my core"
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:25 pm to umrebel2009
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This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Trying to prosecute political enemies and losing is devastating for the side trying the maneuver.
If the law was broken, there must be attempts to prosecute regardless of politics.
Quite disappointing and eye opening that someone that constantly relies on the law to make his arguments is so willing to throw it out because of politics.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:30 pm to hawgfaninc
The very worst people on this Earth will be drawn like flies to a rotting carcass to the extraordinary power, money and status in DC. For the Founders and those who fought for Freedom, it was in service to God and Man. Most of what is up there now are just like the corrupt man they put in office. That is why they didn’t rise up out of their seats on Jan 6 and join those who KNEW dams well what had happened. From Covid, to Lawfare and and the final and definitive act of opening our border to the whole, unvetted world and luring them I. With subsidies out the wazoo.
The stench and stain in the Halls of Congress will remain until the lying stops and the bad actors get the same justice as would those on this Forum.
The suppose altruistic Left had beefed dug deep and find an honest spokesperson or they will find themselves in a real throw down. This is not going away and it shouldn’t.
The stench and stain in the Halls of Congress will remain until the lying stops and the bad actors get the same justice as would those on this Forum.
The suppose altruistic Left had beefed dug deep and find an honest spokesperson or they will find themselves in a real throw down. This is not going away and it shouldn’t.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 9:38 pm to hawgfaninc
I used to watch Bongino's podcast some, and I believe he's the real deal. I know it's real easy for the "free beer tomorrow" crowd to always act like nothings going to happen, but I believe Dan when he says things are happening behind the scenes.
It's been 6 months. You really think that's a long time considering the mess they inherited from Obama/Brandon? I'll go on record right now and say that we will be seeing a lot of activity in the coming days and months.
But yeah, it's real easy to post "Free beer tomorrow." I get it.
It's been 6 months. You really think that's a long time considering the mess they inherited from Obama/Brandon? I'll go on record right now and say that we will be seeing a lot of activity in the coming days and months.
But yeah, it's real easy to post "Free beer tomorrow." I get it.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:03 pm to deathvalleytiger10
quote:
If the law was broken, there must be attempts to prosecute regardless of politics.
Even if they're immune?
Even if the SOL has run?
Even if you have to create crazy, debasing conspiracy theories to try to get around those 2 things?
quote:
Quite disappointing and eye opening that someone that constantly relies on the law to make his arguments is so willing to throw it out because of politics.
I'm doing the opposite
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:10 pm to DeathByTossDive225
You missed the entire point of my original comment to you to begin with. You made a general statement about fact and opinion and speculation, etc. And I do believe your acknowledgment of the failure of folks to correctly understand the distinctions between each, I do applaud that part. But then I also opined that you yourself made a mistake by referring to the quote from SFP’s post as “objective fact,” and I subsequently made an effort to explain why. IMO it was analysis, not objective fact.
That’s all it was.
That’s all it was.
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:18 pm to Jack Ruby
quote:
You can't keep doing this bullshite, but I guess ppl keep believing it.
They've done it for damn near 10 yrs now...
It’s not hard to herd sheep one way or another.
Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:27 pm to hawgfaninc
Stop teasing and just deliver the goods.
I am 100% in your corner.
No more talk.
I am 100% in your corner.
No more talk.
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