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re: Bolton: 'Trump is in a state of utter confusion' over the Strait of Hormuz
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:44 am to tide06
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:44 am to tide06
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sustainable position with regard to Iran or global oil markets.
No one on the planet thinks or wants our current position to be sustainable. And while not sustainable, it is also not untenable.
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 8:56 am
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:45 am to LetsGoBrandon
Bolton is a total POS. But what he’s saying here looks to be true if you look at what’s happening and what Trump is saying day by day without being biased.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:48 am to Wildcat1996
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Your tacit support of Bolton has been noted.
What? I hate John Bolton
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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Trump is engaging in the largest globalist endeavor
Wrong answer. The Iran action is pushing the Global economy back towards American control, not away which is what Globalists want.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:55 am to riccoar
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The Iran action is pushing the Global economy back towards American control
wut
We aren't controlling Iran once this is over. It's likely China gets even more power over them after the fact.
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which is what Globalists want.
Russia, Iran, China, and to a much lesser extent Venezuela and NK are the primary opponents to the West/Globalism.
*Were, in terms of Venezuela. We've possibly taken out that government in a prior globalist endeavor.
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 8:56 am
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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Russia, Iran, China, and to a much lesser extent Venezuela and NK are the primary opponents to the West/Globalism.
What do you think the goals of West/Globalism are?
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:02 am to Jimmy Russel
quote:Cool. So we shouldn't take any of these retired officers seriously regardless of their rank.
Jimmy Russel
That was my point.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:11 am to loogaroo
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What do you think the goals of West/Globalism are?
Given the fact that "globalism/globalists" keep getting redefined, there are multiple options.
But what isn't at issue is the status of Russia, Iran, China, NK (and formerly Venezuela and Syria to a lesser extent) in comparison with that malleable concept.
That's why trying to redefine "globalism/globalist" yet again to include Iran as part or globalism is utterly retarded.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:12 am to LetsGoBrandon
Bolton is a paid traitor
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:14 am to SlowFlowPro
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Given the fact that "globalism/globalists" keep getting redefined, there are multiple options.
But what do you think the goals are?
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:15 am to LetsGoBrandon
How the F would this loser know? He has zero sources.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:19 am to LetsGoBrandon
Bolton is a fig. But he is correct for once.
Trump looks like a fool. We’ve won this “war” 15 times so far and completely opened the straight 12 times.
Trump looks like a fool. We’ve won this “war” 15 times so far and completely opened the straight 12 times.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:22 am to Sp0728
I don't like Bolton. I also don't think Trump is "confused"
I do think Trump doesn't have a good exit, is used to always having 5 options that he can claim as wins, and is basically just poking and prodding and trying and hoping something breaks that gives him a clear window to claim a win.
It's pretty similar to Ukraine and Palestine.
I do think Trump doesn't have a good exit, is used to always having 5 options that he can claim as wins, and is basically just poking and prodding and trying and hoping something breaks that gives him a clear window to claim a win.
It's pretty similar to Ukraine and Palestine.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:30 am to Sp0728
This is reminding me of Bush II Iraq war.
-Convince the public that we are at risk because of their WMD's/Nukes.
-Israel took out Iraq's nuclear plant, US/Israel supposedly took out Irans nuclear enrichment ability
-Overwhelm Iraq and Iran to topple leadership and hopefully get a favorable govt planted.
It feels the same here.
I for one, was for the Iraq war because of the WMD's and argued for it. I look back on that and believe I was wrong. I was at first ok with attacking Iran because I do feel they want nukes to threaten or use against Israel and maybe us. I'm starting to feel that we were roped into it by Israel and think this was not the right approach. It is not going to end with the objectives of the radical leaders being sent packing.
-Convince the public that we are at risk because of their WMD's/Nukes.
-Israel took out Iraq's nuclear plant, US/Israel supposedly took out Irans nuclear enrichment ability
-Overwhelm Iraq and Iran to topple leadership and hopefully get a favorable govt planted.
It feels the same here.
I for one, was for the Iraq war because of the WMD's and argued for it. I look back on that and believe I was wrong. I was at first ok with attacking Iran because I do feel they want nukes to threaten or use against Israel and maybe us. I'm starting to feel that we were roped into it by Israel and think this was not the right approach. It is not going to end with the objectives of the radical leaders being sent packing.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:42 am to Murph4HOF
Not when they value the interests of our “allies” over our own. That’s essentially what every one of these turds are arguing for.
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 9:43 am
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