re: Birx Rejects Theory that Coronavirus deaths are inflated

I could be wrong but I just don’t see that there are that many people who are corona symptomatic who then keel over from something else.

At least not to a significant level.

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so yes they may have had another condition like heart, cancer, etc., that they were going to die from

BUT,

were they going to die from those other conditions TODAY?

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...or, looking at it another way, would they have died from Coronavirus without those conditions.

The real question is related to the number. Is this number small relative to the total number of direct coronavirus deaths? Or, is it a significant number?

If it's an insignificant number, then who cares. If it's a big percentage, then it makes sense to be more criticial about the methodology.

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Then the underlying condition would be the cause of death and the virus would actually be the underlying condition. If people with no underlying condition are recovering from the virus then it seems the virus is just a secondary factor of death and not the reason for death.

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One might think of Covid as the yeast that causes the bread dough to rise...or the roux that flavors the gumbo...or the QB who ignites a whole team to win. Only Covid is the factor that, apart from its presence, a person with asthma or diabetes or heart issues might not suddenly take sick and die.

it's about the reporting, not the actual situation. and they have admitted elsewhere hospitals are linking any death in with the virus numbers. so then you cite people who are politically connected being guilty of double talk. thanks for confirming what everyone already knew.

oh btw, citing the wapo actually hurts your case.

btw, what is your case? what point are you trying to make? you've been proven wrong on a number of aspects. it is a fact that outside of nyc, this virus hasn't even made a dent in the country, much less risen to the level of pandemic crisis.

it's also a fact that you don't know the number of asymptomatic cases which blows your conclusions out of the water.

it's also a fact that there is a non trivial number of false negative/positive tests which makes the number of confirmed cases even more spurious

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If not, how to explain the absolute plummet in Pneumonia deaths?

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Is there a chance at least a minuscule number were? Sure

I think there's a few factors that might contribute. One, that your vulnerable population has been staying indoors and away from others for several weeks now. Two, old people dying at home because they are afraid of hospitals and ER's and figure it's something they can beat at home and they never get a diagnosis

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btw, what is your case? what point are you trying to make?

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Well the case the Trump Humpers are trying to make is ... “see? It’s not so bad! So it’s okay that Trump screwed around and failed to take it seriously in the beginning!” So desperately holding on to this conspiracy theory that when Trump’s own people shoot that down, you make up even more BS to keep it going.

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Fauci then weighed in, warning against such “conspiracy theories.”

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For a supposed genius, Fauci doesn't have a working understanding of what a conspiracy is.

Besides, the number of deaths isn't the real question that should be asked of these jokers.

Dr Fauci, what's the baseline 12-month and 24-month survival rate for the vast majority of people that are dying with C-19?

We are cratering the economy, f'n up society and making up gov't powers in order to give a lot of people that would be dead within a year or two some extra time to suffer.

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So she is saying that if a patient has terminal cancer but complained about an excruciating headache right before death then that person died of a brain ailment?

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If it is medically determined that the cause of death was 1) related to that headache (was the cancer in the brain?), then yes, although I'm sure there would be a more specific description other than "brain ailment". They'd determine what exactly ailed the brain.


She is saying quite simply, that if a person with terminal cancer died by drowning in a flood, that that person did NOT die due to cancer.


She is saying quite simply, that if a person with terminal cancer died by burning to death in a fire, or from asphyxiation from the smoke, that that person did NOT die due to cancer.


She is saying quite simply, that if a person with terminal cancer died from injuries suffered in an auto accident, that that person did NOT die due to cancer.


Is it really all that hard to fathom for you??

When this COVID-19 shite started up, all of your inbreds were talking about how the common flu killed more than this COVID-19 killed, at the time of you spewing your inane droolings. Does anyone ever really die from the flu? Don't they die from other complications brought on by the flu, like pneumonia??

That's why they call them flu "complications" - because they complicate pre-existing conditions.

But they list all the people who die from the flu every year. Trump referenced the # of flu deaths early on. And all of you trumptards came running into here to prop up his tripe as well. The fact that no one ever dies solely from the flu alone, never bothered any of you.

Now it's the new Repub Fox News conspiracy. And you mongoloids eat it up with a spoon, to get every bite.....


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Hospitals are being paid for having Covid patients. Of course they’re going to inflate the number at a time they’re hemorrhaging money.

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I don't know what type of business you're in, but do you regularly lie to increase profits?

Medicine doesn't work that way.