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ConwayGamecock
Favorite team: | South Carolina ![]() |
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re: Why didn't we use the South Korean approach?
Posted by ConwayGamecock on 4/25/20 at 8:56 am
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i remember in early March asking liberals if they thought Trump should have declared martial law to shut down major urban, coastal areas and they were AGHAST at the possibility of that sort of dictatorial action
This is what is so pathetically dumbfounding about you Trumptards.
Donald Trump considered himself to be a master deal maker and negotiator. He considers himself to be a master at recognizing opportunity. He wrote the book titled, "The Art of the Deal".
But Trump was so stupid and self-insecure to see a GREAT political boon. To be a true political HERO. To lock down 2020, and perhaps even position himself to change federal law and give himself a 3rd or more terms.
Trump KNEW that the United States was depleted in PPE stocks for the next viral pandemic. He's had just about every nook and cranny of his Administration telling him this since 2016.
Dan Coates stated the biggest threat to the U.S. was a viral pandemic, even more than a nuclear attack.
Alex Azar stated what keeps him up at night, is a pandemic outbreak in the U.S.
Trump's own intelligence community - Coates, Wray, the CIA, the NSC were ALL telling him the U.S. was poorly prepared for a pandemic.
The HHS, under Azar, ran an pandemic exercise and gave Trump a report that essentially prophesied EXACTLY what we're going through. Right now. That report was in October of last year.
So Trump had all the ammo he needed. This is a bipartisan position in Congress. Trump had a TON of data to back him up.
Trump could have seized the day - gotten all these issues addressed pro-actively. Gotten PPE supplies replenished. Established branches of coordination and communication from his Administration to the state level. Formulated plans.
If the COVID-19 never happened, it was still a WIN - everyone was saying it needed to be done, and Trump would be able to claim that he did it. Because he did.
But if the COVID-19 DID happen, then Trump would be a true political HERO. It would have been true, documented LEADERSHIP - not fabricated, cooked-up claims of same. He would have saved countless LIVES.
Trump right now would be riding that train straight through 2020, instead of looking like the bumbling incompetent he is.
All it needed, was for Donald Trump to get his fat, orange arse out of his own way.
But Trump couldn't do even that, with his entire Administration in his ear. He couldn't close that deal, sitting in his lap.
You idiots here breaking your backs trying so hard to cover and lie for him. It's beyond words.... :lol: :bow:
re: Why didn't we use the South Korean approach?
Posted by ConwayGamecock on 4/25/20 at 8:42 am
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after the CDC failed, Trump acted like a LEADER and forced the CDC/FDA to get out of the way so private testing could be done
and it has been very successful in making up for the gap that the CDC left us in
The CDC was determined failed by all labs they sent the test kits to, by middle February, if not a few days sooner. It took until middle March to get out of the private labs' way? Do you know how long a month is, during an ongoing novel pandemic?? You call that leadership? Every one of those obstacles, the Trump Administration knew they would be obstacles months - if not years - before 2020, and it still took the nation becoming infected before Trump "led"?
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you criticize him for not acting like a dictator while claiming he acts like a dictator
tell me again how SK didn't use the surveillance state to thwart early spread of COVID-19, and how their TOTALLY not authoritarian moves could work in the US. please focus on the comparable CCTV coverage as well as state intrusiveness in sensitive, personal data.
The CDC, FDA, FEMA, and the Defense Production Act are not considered dictator powers by the federal government, nor by Congress. I haven't not criticized Trump for not acting like a dictator - you need to create the strawman in order post emoticons, take it to the Rant.....
South Korea has been regarded by the United States government as a liberal democracy since the late 1980s. By what you mean with SK using "the surveillance state", you need to explain more. To reply to the OP of this thread, South Korea recognized the threat of COVID-19 early, and had an established plan/program of working with its national industry and manufacturers to coordinate the development of mass numbers of testing, which they had very early on.
They mass-tested their populace - even tested asymptomatic citizens - and were able to map out regions of contaminant of the virus early on. Then they focused hard on quarantining those regions, and practiced social distancing and economic shutdowns for those regions immediately, and saw a drastic decline of the infection's spread as a result.
One could make the argument that the SK government's direction and organization of private corporation cooperation with the government as being a form of "authoritarian" influence, but it's a pretty weak effort of spin.
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TRUMP IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL FEDERAL ACTS BUT HE WOULD ALSO NEVER GIVE UP POWER RAWR
because the CDC cost us all of Feb and Trump change policies and the CDC/FDA gave up control and private industry did work
the timeline you posted is an argument for how Trump handled this crisis well in the face of bureaucratic failure by the CDC
You're trying in a very pitiful fashion, to somehow dissect several federal agencies/departments that ANY U.S. President is supposed to be responsible for, from Donald Trump's responsibility. You keep referring to Trump's LEADERSHIP:
quote:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Nov 8, 2013
Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible.
The CDC doesn't do anything without approval of Trump. Again, the Trump Administration knew for years how poorly prepared the U.S. was for a pandemic, and he did nothing but whittled down the CDC's effectiveness to rapidly respond to COVID-19, and did nothing but allowed the U.S.'s federal response overall to COVID-19 to stumble and stagger.....
re: Why didn't we use the South Korean approach?
Posted by ConwayGamecock on 4/25/20 at 8:06 am
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yes but he's MMQBing that argument and it makes no rational sense
the issue is EARLY appropriation of tests, b/c that's when fedgov was still in control. those tests weren't going to non-infected states much
however, AFTER testing was opened up to private industry, it exploded in those areas. that's not "appropriation" b/c it was out of the government's hands at that point
he/she is using data from after the government ceded control to argue about the situation when the government was in full control
The "fedgov" is still supposed to be in full control, because the law states they are. The CDC has federal control over what state governments can/cannot do in regards to infectious disease.
The FDA has federal authority over drugs and testing devices and other medical devices that may be used or may be developed in times of pandemic infection.
It requires waivers and EUAs from the FDA, or they have the lawful right and authority to shut down state attempts to address infection and treatment at the state level. Even the CDC can be shut down by the FDA - a sister agency - if they do not follow approved methods.
Your implication that the "fedgov" handed over authorities on how to deal with this COVID-19, as if they have no more say in the matter, is cute in it's quaintness and naivety. Trump would NEVER give up authority of ANYTHING. The only thing he has given up is the responsibility. Not the same thing.
The CDC's first tests that had the negative control contamination were sent as kits to pre-CDC approved subordinate state labs to confirm their efficacy. These kits were designed to support 700 sample tests per kit, and 200 kits were sent out in early February (Feb. 5). They were NOT used to test patient samples, but only used to trial samples.
Once the defective negative controls were determined, the tests were sent back to CDC to determine why they failed. In the meantime, the CDC worked to fix the issue, which took most of February. Once they fixed the defect, they began sending out test kits to pre-approved state government labs, and by-passed the trial confirmation, allowing for those kits to be used to test actual patient samples. The # of test kits were still very low, some 250 a day.
By the end of February, the FDA agreed to drop regulations of pre-approving state testing labs, and allowed for private, commercial, and institutional labs to begin developing and conducting tests. These labs however were still heavily dependent on available supplies of needed test components from outside sources.
By mid March, the FDA (or CDC, not sure right now) dropped another regulation requiring all test results to be sent to the CDC offices in Atlanta, GA for confirmation, which was drastically slowing and bottle-necking test results, and creating a backlog of waiting samples.
Again, this was in middle March. Go check Chromedome's thread and see where the daily test cases start kicking upwardly. It was middle March. THAT was when we finally stopped running in place on top of the water, and starting progressing forward in testing. The middle of March.
The "fedgov" has had it's fingers in this pie the whole way. It hasn't given up "control" of anything - it merely started getting out of everyone's way. It's still not out the whole way, however.
But the private industry has still struggled to ramp up manufacture of all the test components - swabs, vials, reagent compounds, extraction chemicals. There's still been a huge depletion of PPE supplies for other protective gear that is needed for safe application of the tests.
Again, it is the "fedgov" - the President of the United States - that has sole authority to enact the Defense Production Act. The state governments do not have this power. The President could have invoked this authority from the start, since his administration knew for years that PPE stockpiles for such a viral pandemic was depleted.
Still, Trump waited until March 18 to declare his intention to use the DPA, but didn't actually use it until Mar. 27th for General Motors, and then April 2nd for several companies to manufacture N95 masks, nearly a month later after it was well known there were few supplies of such masks available. Just 5 days ago, they announced they would use the DPA to ramp up manufacture of swabs.
Again, this is FEDERAL GOVERNMENT control, not state government. A State Governor in Wyoming cannot do a damned thing to make a business in New Mexico manufacture emergency supplies for them.
AGAIN, there has been ZERO concession of control. The ONLY thing Trump has sought to do from the beginning, is deny responsibility.
re: Why didn't we use the South Korean approach?
Posted by ConwayGamecock on 4/25/20 at 6:55 am
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It’s not a revision. You can say whatever you want. The CDC screwed the pooch on this testing debacle. Not Trump. Not Pence.
And Trump was being sarcastic. Don't choke on the sand with your nose upside down like that......
re: Why didn't we use the South Korean approach?
Posted by ConwayGamecock on 4/25/20 at 6:53 am
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So again, for the slow learners, Fauci, Johns Hopkins, Scott Gottlieb, every pandemic "expert" in the country told Trump the CDC was the world's most capable organization in addressing an epidemic. The CDC said the quality of tests was critical, and the CDC needed oversight of uniform quality. What would you have had Trump do? Say "screw you guys, I don't trust the CDC. I'm gonna do my own thing" ?
Of course not!
Had he done that you be pitching conniption fits about it.
Meanwhile Congress was doing what?
Perhaps you've forgotten?
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So again, for the slow learners, Fauci, Johns Hopkins, Scott Gottlieb, every pandemic "expert" in the country told Trump the CDC was the world's most capable organization in addressing an epidemic. The CDC said the quality of tests was critical, and the CDC needed oversight of uniform quality. What would you have had Trump do? Say "screw you guys, I don't trust the CDC. I'm gonna do my own thing" ?
Of course not!
Had he done that you be pitching conniption fits about it.
Meanwhile Congress was doing what?
Perhaps you've forgotten?
So again, for the brain-dead Trumptards here.
Fauci is considered one of the the - if not THE - foremost U.S. expert on infectious diseases and viral pandemics.
Fauci was this under the Obama Administration.
Fauci was this under the W. Bush Administration.
Fauci was this under the Clinton Administration.
Fauci was this under the H.W. Bush Administration.
Fauci was becoming this under the Reagan Administration.
The other experts don't earn their accolades from the bottom of cracker-jack boxes. Just like you morons don't earn your ignorance from any higher-learning institutions.
The fact is, the CDC was in fact the world's most capable organization in addressing pandemics. They didn't exactly lie or exaggerate.
But unfortunately, the CDC is STILL a sub-department of a cabinet-level department of the federal government, and as such serves at the pleasure of the President of the United States.
Even if the pleasure of that President falls along the lines of a 5th-grader....
I would expect Trump - being the President - to be a leader. You talk like it was the CDC who was advising Trump that the COVID-19 was going to be nothing. You talk like it was Trump who was constrained by Redfield from taking COVID-19 seriously a month sooner, and from getting a proper test out to the masses in sufficient numbers, and from restocking a dangerously depleted federal stockpile of PPE equipment, and communicating to the state governments to do the same themselves.
You talk like you have no clue what you're talking about....
re: Why didn't we use the South Korean approach?
Posted by ConwayGamecock on 4/25/20 at 6:41 am
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A more serious answer- SK and Singapore and a few other places relied way heavily on the surveillance state. Phone alerts and location reporting and extremely intrusive government intervention to identify and use technology.to isolate the infected, paired with a cultural obedience to central directives. They experienced SARS and other infectious diseases to build a model of intervention that ignored privacy, to the benefit of public health.
Sounds like you need to read more boards. South Korea is not a surveillance state. And every preventative process you just described, has absolutely NOTHING to do with what methods South Korea actually used, against COVID-19. You need to take your imagination to Hollywood.....
re: Why didn't we use the South Korean approach?
Posted by ConwayGamecock on 4/25/20 at 6:34 am
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By design.
Officially, it is called These United States
Fedgov was never intended to be a central ruler.
The premise that Washington DC has the Constitutional authority to micro manage this is false.
That design was called the Articles of Confederation. It hasn't been our nation's constitution since the late 1700s. You need to catch up.
Then why are U.S. tax payers paying their hard-earned money to a FEDERALLY-CONTROLED AND GOVERNED Centers for Disease Control and Prevention? Why does it exist? You dumb Repubs are supposed to decry big federal government - now we have this federal agency that YOU SAY doesn't have a mission statement? Are YOU fine with that?
Why is the President of the United States doing daily pressers about this? Why hasn't he had ONE SINGLE STATE GOVERNOR appear at even ONE SINGLE one of his pressers? It's their show, right? What the hell is Trump doing?
Regardless of whether or not Washington DC has Constitutional authority to micro manage this is a little after the fricking fact that they sure as hell micro-managed this into the ground to begin with, despite what you say. HELLO! Have you been vacationing on a deserted island for the last 3 months?
They prevented those states from developing their own tests for over a month, which is a YUGE reason why we've been behind in this race since the starting gun fired.
Please. Just return to the little kids' table. This discussion is above your head....
re: Respiratory therapist comments about Trump comment
Posted by ConwayGamecock on 4/25/20 at 6:24 am
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You have to take some of the things Trump says with a grain of salt. I mean there's no way he really meant for people to start injecting or inhaling Lysol disinfectant. How dumb do you have to be?
That being said injecting medications into the lungs happens, injecting Epinephrine straight to the endotracheal tube happens if you struggle to get a line on a patient. Of course its better to have IV or IO access but it can still be done.
You have to take things Trump says with a truck load of salt. 1) he has the vocabulary range of a 5th-grader, and 2) he says lies 5 times for every 3 words he speaks.....
re: Trump advised to pare back lengthy coronavirus briefings
Posted by ConwayGamecock on 4/25/20 at 6:09 am
It was WAAAY LOOONG over due. Trump has been using these pressers as his "I am Iron Man" moment, when his aides have been trying to get him to keep to the cards.
Trump is NOT Iron Man. He is Iron Brain Man.....

Trump is NOT Iron Man. He is Iron Brain Man.....

re: Why didn't we use the South Korean approach?
Posted by ConwayGamecock on 4/25/20 at 6:02 am
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The CDC screwed us is why.
The CDC massively overpromised and massively underdelivered.
In Jan & Feb the CDC said they had tests completely in hand.
The CDC said it would produce the most and the best tests in the world.
Fauci, the NIH, Johns Hopkins, and every US pandemic "expert" told Trump the CDC was the world's premier agent in dealing with a pandemic. They told him to trust the CDC.
Are you intimating Trump should have ignored every US pandemic "expert", shut out the CDC, shut out US labs the CDC (inappropriately) called to question, and instead relied on internationally manufactured CV19 tests?
Pretty convenient revision of U.S. Government. The CDC is a sub-division of the Health & Human Services (HHS), a cabinet-level department of the current Presidential Administration.
Trump, the moron taking up air in the Oval Office as the current elected U.S. President, oversees and names the director of the HHS. A previous office for infectious diseases and bioterrorism under Obama was dismantled by former Trump Chief of Staff John Kelly under orders from Trump. The responsibilities of that office - formerly under the National Security Council - was moved to the HHS' authorities.
Trump worked since day one as President to cut funding and staffing of the CDC. His Administration oversaw:
The reduction from 47 to 14 American CDC staff at the Beijing CDC Office over the last 2 years, including a major medical epidemiologist expert who was a trainer of Chinese field epidemiologists who were deployed to the epicenter of outbreaks to help track, investigate and contain diseases. This CDC expert, Dr. Linda Quick, left her post in July 1999.
Separately, the National Science Foundation (NSF) and the United States Agency for International Development (USAID), the global relief program which had a role in helping China monitor and respond to outbreaks, also shut their Beijing offices on Trump’s watch. Before the closures, each office was staffed by a U.S. official.
In addition, the U.S. Department of Agriculture(USDA) transferred out of China in 2018 the manager of an animal disease monitoring program.
The CDC's handling of the development of the contaminated initial COVID-19 tests have been investigated by the FDA, and they found the supervision and leadership of the flawed manufacturing processes that violated the CDC's own standards, was non-existent.
All of this were the major building blocks for the foundation of the United States' slow and studdering response and preparation for the COVID-19 spread throughout the nation. The Captain of that ship was always Donald Trump.
And even today, late in this pandemic, Trump is still out there stumbling about. Still out there with little to no effective plan in regards to dealing with COVID-19, and getting the nation back on it's feet. The most effective plans have come from state leadership. Trump has been left to being effectively some idiot on the sidelines eating popcorn and cheering on the game. We have an armchair QB for our U.S. President. There will be a reckoning....
re: VP Pence says Utah Gov Herbert diverted 1200 state employees to conduct "Contact Tracing"
Posted by ConwayGamecock on 4/25/20 at 5:18 am
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Contact Tracing seems like a colossal waste of effort. By the time you found out someone was infected, especially in an urban area, they would have interacted with too many people for it to be at all useful.
It’s also disturbing from a freedom and privacy standpoint.
Yeah, like its not so much of a disturbance of privacy when the coroner splits open your bodies' breastplate and cracks open your ribcage as he/she performs their mandated autopsy....
Contact tracing - like asymptomatic preventative mass testing - was REALLY effective early on in the initial stages of COVID-19 spread, but of course Trump screwed that pooch into the ground.
Utah is one of the bottom states in the U.S. in terms of cases and deaths, so perhaps the spread is not already a foregone conclusion there.
But for ALL states, it's already consensus medical opinion that increased testing will be needed for the re-opening of local economies throughout the nation. Businesses and community leaders MUST have knowledge that if they re-open businesses, they won't be sending healthy people into close-quarter activities with others who are infected with the COVID-19.
Contact tracing is easy, simple, and is a system that has been used now for decades. Unlike past flu epidemics, or really any other past viral pandemic outbreak, the country is largely in a shut-down mode right now, with most states conducting various stay-at-home and social distancing practices. Practices again, that we have not really ever done before.
This actually makes your above opinion - like 99.999% of opinions posted on this forum - largely ignorant and uneducated. As people are actively practicing social distancing, it currently makes it easier and more effective to contact trace for the COVID-19 now than it has to contact trace for any other past virus.
People who are sick or have been infected with the COVID-19 in recent past, are much better able to list any and all other people that they have been in contact with in recent days, even weeks. For past flu seasons, as an example, people sick with the flu continued to go to work, go shopping at malls, and socialize with others. They have a harder time listing all of those people.
Likewise, if you did come into contact with someone else, and you gave them the COVID-19, THAT person was less likely to then mix and mingle with others, because they are also practicing social distancing right now.
So the chances of rapid infection is much lesser right now than with any past viruses, and therefore the ability to more accurately trace contacts is much greater.....
re: Fact Check: No, Trump Didn't Propose Injecting People with Disinfectant
Posted by ConwayGamecock on 4/24/20 at 4:23 pm
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Trump has no filter. He just says whatever pops in his head.
Biden has plaques in his brain.
There's a difference.
Yeah - one should know better????
re: Presidents say dumb stuff all the time
Posted by ConwayGamecock on 4/24/20 at 4:09 pm
Yeah hahahahahahaha yeah. Like, remember that time Obama said.......and remember that one time that Bush said......and remember those 218,514 times Trump said.......
yeah heh heh.....
yeah heh heh.....
re: Our President’s cleaner comment: meant for the stupid, take it literally u should die
Posted by ConwayGamecock on 4/24/20 at 4:06 pm
Oh believe me, I have known that ALL of his press conferences have been nothing but complete jokes. All of you here are the ones who should be transported immediately to Wuhan wet market janitorial crews for new job assignments.....
re: Fact Check: No, Trump Didn't Propose Injecting People with Disinfectant
Posted by ConwayGamecock on 4/24/20 at 9:50 am
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Keep cheering those 1st downs, moron....
It amazes me how STUPID and dishonest you Lefties are.
Isn't it obvious now that SUPPOSED high-intellect does not necessarily a good President make?
Let's say for example that us Trumpkins WERE to cede the notion that Obama was a much smarter man (altho' I don't buy the hype) than Trump.
That still doesn't help you guys because the FACT is Trump is inarguably a much better President and leader of men than Obama ever dreamed.
This silly obsession with Trumps' foibles speaks volumes about your own insecurities.
LOL at how MAD you are that your man also seems like he has dementia, but he actually doesn't, that is just how he rolls.
Are you envious wishing that you could say your man sounds like he had dementia, because he actually does? You're on the outside, looking in?? Did you know that people who actually suffer from dementia, feel that same way?
re: Where did the 60K death estimate come from?
Posted by ConwayGamecock on 4/24/20 at 9:41 am
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What's amazing is total deaths from all causes is down 10%. It would seem that we have discovered a cure for: cancer, heart disease, dementia, ALS, traffic fatalities and really all other forms of death.
Yeah.....
It's almost like because of the economic shutdown, it seems almost like no one is driving as much these past months, no one is working heavy equipment, everyone is relaxing staying at home and just waiting, no one is having as many at-work injuries and fatalities, no one is massing together in public places having arguments, fights, knife and gun fatalities. No one is getting into fights at the counters inside the local McDonalds'. It's crazy, isn't it.
Isn't it????
re: Fact Check: No, Trump Didn't Propose Injecting People with Disinfectant
Posted by ConwayGamecock on 4/24/20 at 9:27 am
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I voted for Trump. I will again. I watched his comments live. He sounded like an idiot.
But the alternative has dementia.
People with dementia sound like idiots.
So you choose a guy who sounds like an idiot. Or you choose a guy who sounds like an idiot, and has a good reason to.
To each their own, I guess..... :dunno:
re: Fact Check: No, Trump Didn't Propose Injecting People with Disinfectant
Posted by ConwayGamecock on 4/24/20 at 9:23 am
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LINK
LOL - look at Dr. Birx - while Trump is saying that stuff, she's looking straight ahead and down towards the floor, the entire time!
"do not make eye contact!! do not make eye contact! DO NOT MAKE EYE CONTACT!! Don't make the President look at me while he's saying this stuff, and either 1) imply that he got this stupid shite from me, and ruin my reputation, or 2) make me have to respond to him, which would make him try to ruin my reputation afterwards, because I sure as hell am NOT agreeing with that shite!!"
:rotflmao: :rotflmao:
re: Louisville Mayor wants federal bailout, if not, taxes will be raised.
Posted by ConwayGamecock on 4/24/20 at 9:15 am
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Its about time for the silent majority to get loud.
Every middle of the road, non extreme person in this country need to get off their arse and say "enough is enough".
I have a terrible feeling that we will see bloodshed in this country over this situation, no matter how it turns out. There will be extremists from one side or another that won't agree and it will get out of hand.
The only light at the end of the tunnel, is that might be what it takes to get us back on the right path as a country.
I have felt for a long long time, that if elections for state and federal governments were patriotically supported to the point that we regularly saw 80%+ voter turnouts year after year, that 90% of this nation's problems would be solved.
As it is, we regularly struggle to get more than 50% voter turnouts, even for presidential elections. Regardless of what political party affiliation you identify with, with that kind of turnout at the ballot boxes, NO ONE truly gets who they vote for, and our country ends up being governed by the wrong people....
re: Louisville Mayor wants federal bailout, if not, taxes will be raised.
Posted by ConwayGamecock on 4/24/20 at 9:07 am
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This is Marxism.
Marxism is a series of philosophical critiques done by Karl Marx. What I suppose is more relative here, was Marx's critiques of classical capitalism and the relationships of class society within capitalism.
Marx never really expanded on his basic theory on capitalism beyond the bourgeoisie - the owners of the means of production (Employers) - and the proletariat - the laborer (Employees).
Marx's position on classical capitalism is that it was mutually self-defeating if not self-consuming, and inevitably required a new form of society via revolutionary transformation, that would inevitably be won by the proletariat class. This was the basis philosophy that spawned Leninism-Marxism, and communism.
What the mudsill theory is, is altogether different. It is not a doomsday critique of capitalism, but of a resolute embrace of capitalism requiring the perpetual class of low-income, poor working people serving as the forever foundation to the elite class of industrialists, magnates, tycoons, barons of industry and wealth and power, as the pillars of the economical institution.
Marxism was the philosophy that the mechanism of capitalism by design and by nature would inevitably lead to the exhausting of both the Earth's resources, and the labor force. That the very "logic" of Capitalism was self-defeating.
The Mudsill Theory was the exact opposite of Marxism. If you mean to say MY opinion of the Mudsill Theory is Marxism, that is also wrong: I've always believed in Capitalism, and think Empire Nations can be built through true Capitalism, but that there is a very distinct line between Capitalism and Greed, and very much of the evil doings in America is the result of straight-out pure greed being painted and propped up as Capitalism.
The Mudsill Theory by itself was mostly an attempt by slave-practicing southern states to retro-provide a logic and justification for the practice, in order to defend keeping and maintaining such practices. Similar to the creation of Southern Baptism as a religion.....
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