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re: Big misconception among many of you about why we Dems oppose The Wall
Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:45 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:45 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:”Their name is Pew. I think that socialist smell bad. Pew. So therefore the pew research Center is socialist. I aint believing them.”
Pew research center
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:45 pm to Revelator
Under these circumstances Dems can’t allow the precedent. If they do it will be government stoppages every other month.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:45 pm to Cold Drink
Well written definition of your position. I appreciate that.
On iPad so response may be more terse than my normal posts. If you want more detail on any of my response I will follow up when I get back to laptop.
First The dog whistle is your most important reason and I agree. Dems are totally dedicated to framing very issue as a racist outrage. It is simply a lie. And if your side cannot abandon that strategy you will never convince any common sense person that you have a logica reason for anything. Your starting position on every issue is that WE are racist monsters and must be annihilated. This is not a rational starting point for any kind of compromise.
This is physically tiring. Will return on my laptop later.
On iPad so response may be more terse than my normal posts. If you want more detail on any of my response I will follow up when I get back to laptop.
First The dog whistle is your most important reason and I agree. Dems are totally dedicated to framing very issue as a racist outrage. It is simply a lie. And if your side cannot abandon that strategy you will never convince any common sense person that you have a logica reason for anything. Your starting position on every issue is that WE are racist monsters and must be annihilated. This is not a rational starting point for any kind of compromise.
This is physically tiring. Will return on my laptop later.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:46 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:46 pm to Cold Drink
quote:
Like I said, you can think all these reasons are stupid and you may even be right. But my entire point - which most people are missing - is that the reasons we oppose The Wall are different that what you may think.
Sooo...can you bullet point those reason?
Thanks.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:46 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Yes, I know you can cite all the polls. Just like the election.
I'm telling you...(and you wont believe me) there is a majority that approves the wall and elected orange man.
Polls are meaningless today.
I'm telling you...(and you wont believe me) there is a majority that approves the wall and elected orange man.
Polls are meaningless today.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:47 pm to Mr.Perfect
quote:Well, that response clearly shows that you are opened-minded and ready to have a fact based discussion on the subject.
Just admit it. You know it would shut off millions of illegal votes that support your dreams of socialism.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:47 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
Pew research center. They are as unbiased as it gets. Stop consuming only right media media for your news.
trusting any type of poll is brave for a liberal considering the presidential election landslide win for Hillary. 
Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:47 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
quote:
That's a whole lot of words to say "Orange Man Bad".
and
muh feels
Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:47 pm to Cold Drink
This is the same repeated talking points floating on FB
Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:47 pm to ChineseBandit58
quote:
Dems are totally dedicated to framing very issue as a racist outrage.
Republican politicians and conservative business interests and very eager to cover up the failure of trickle down economics by blaming non-whites in various ways, tapping into the conscious and/or subconscious biases of a portion of their base. Not their entire base by any stretch but it absolutely is dog whistle after dog whistle. Anything to deflect from the abject failure of Reganomics.
This post was edited on 1/19/19 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:47 pm to texridder
quote:
opened-minded
Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:48 pm to BBONDS25
Sent off my renewal a few days before the shutdown with the expedited service. Didnt even cross my mind that State might be impacted until a day or two ago.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:48 pm to Jbird
Open your mind to accepting my view
This is what is meant when libs use this line of having an open mind.
This is what is meant when libs use this line of having an open mind.
This post was edited on 1/19/19 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:49 pm to loogaroo
quote:
I'm telling you...(and you wont believe me) there is a majority that approves the wall and elected orange man.
What are you basing that on other than your feelings and the anecdotal feelings of people you know. You remind me of coastal liberals who couldn’t believe Trump won bc they didn’t know a single person voting for him.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:49 pm to Cold Drink
So to recap, you're all for the wall but you oppose it because Trump is a meanie patooty head.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:53 pm to BBONDS25
quote:
Drac saying Buzzfeed isn’t fake news
My posts right after the buzzfeed story yesterday:
quote:
We don’t know what evidence there is or isn’t at this point....
Regardless, if there’s proof Mueller has it. If there isn’t that will come out too. ...
I don’t see how anyone can say anything definitively until his report is released
Stop being such a lying hack. You’re better than that.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:55 pm to Cold Drink
All of those democrats over the past few decades were dog whistling, including Obama?
Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:55 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Gtfo you were all in believing that bull shite and randomly hedge posted
Posted on 1/19/19 at 3:56 pm to Draconian Sanctions
SC said the story was wrong. You are sided with the Buzzfeed saying 'show me'. That is saying you believe it is not fake news. Even when proof is brought forth you will in most likeliness continue to say they were right in printing the article that was baseless.
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