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re: Biden Creating Commission to Look Into Packing the Supreme Court
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:51 pm to udtiger
Posted on 4/9/21 at 2:51 pm to udtiger
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it's 5-4 at best, period.
No kidding. Please, someone, point out a conservative decision Roberts has made in the last six years, show a consistent conservative pattern to his rulings.
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:06 pm to bstew3006
Surely Manchin, Sinema, and really even Mark Kelly wouldn’t vote to expand the court. There’s no way they’d get re-elected allowing that. Maybe I’m being naive, in their own self interest wouldn’t they vote against it?
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:13 pm to OMLandshark
quote:Most Americans were taught starting in our first Government class back in Jr. High or High School that "court packing is bad" in the context of FDR.
Surely Manchin, Sinema, and really even Mark Kelly wouldn’t vote to expand the court. There’s no way they’d get re-elected allowing that. Maybe I’m being naive, in their own self interest wouldn’t they vote against it?
That sort of early education sticks, and I think that even a lot of Dem voters will have problems with their Dem elected representatives if they proceed with this notion.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:15 pm to Cajun Tigah
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And who is going to do this? The most that would happen is an angry letter to a congressman that doesn’t care about you. But, if you figure out how to have a war from your sofa holding your beer, then they’ll be trouble!??
I'd march over this, and even most moderates would find it insane.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:16 pm to Jcorye1
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I'd march over this, and even most moderates would find it insane.
Yeah, I’d fly to Washington to try and stop this if it looks like there’s a decent chance it might happen.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:19 pm to AggieHank86
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That sort of early education sticks, and I think that even a lot of Dem voters will have problems with their Dem elected representatives if they proceed with this notion.
Maybe.
But, The younger generation will be full force behind this, unfortunately.
The safe space generation see no issue with this kind of control and "reaction," to what they perceive are wrongs. And all the media has done is fan those flames. This will be perceived as "correcting," wrongs done by republicans.
And the other democrats who might put up a resistance will fold.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:21 pm to OMLandshark
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Sinema, and really even Mark Kelly
Arizona won't even allow an audit of their ballots.
They will get the "votes" they need
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:43 pm to OMLandshark
Bad enough they are going to pack the court, but are also going g to line political cronies pockets to study the issue first.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 3:57 pm to gthog61
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Arizona won't even allow an audit of their ballots.
They will get the "votes" they need
If only one of them rebels then they can’t pack the court, and I think there’s a decent chance that all three of them won’t. Arizona is still decently red for the most part.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:35 pm to OMLandshark
Read this. The progs want to chose the commission.
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Rep. Mondaire Jones (D-N.Y.), a member of Congressional Progressive Caucus and a proponent of adding seats to the court, indicated reservations about the elite pedigree of the group. But he also expressed some guarded hope about its prospect to set in motion changes on the high court.
"Americans will rightly be skeptical of a commission composed almost entirely of people protected from the real-life consequences of the Supreme Court’s right-wing extremism,” Jones said in a statement. “Nevertheless, I remain hopeful that the commission will join our rising movement for Court expansion.”
Nan Aron, who heads the progressive judicial advocacy group Alliance for Justice, said Biden’s move demonstrated “a strong commitment to studying this situation and taking action.”
“With five justices appointed by presidents who lost the popular vote, it’s crucial that we consider every option for wresting back political control of the Supreme Court,” Aron said. “The solutions considered must include actions that can be taken immediately, including expansion of the Court, to stave off decisions that could set back rights, freedoms, and liberties for decades to come.”
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/547453-progressives-give-bidens-court-reform-panel-mixed-reviews
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:35 pm to OMLandshark
or setting term limits for justices
I'm actually ok with this but any current justice needs to be grandfathered in. That said screw Biden for this and for the media not asking him more about packing the court during the election season.
I'm actually ok with this but any current justice needs to be grandfathered in. That said screw Biden for this and for the media not asking him more about packing the court during the election season.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:49 pm to OMLandshark
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Official now
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The topics it will examine include the genesis of the reform debate; the Court’s role in the Constitutional system; the length of service and turnover of justices on the Court; the membership and size of the Court; and the Court’s case selection, rules, and practices.
Seems to me, everything else they might address (as listed) is just meaningless window dressing outside of packing the court. But, we can have fun and kid ourselves that this is about something else and will clearly be a "bipartisan" effort. That's all anyone is doing with this administration about anything anyway.
Hey, they are just looking at REFORM!!!
Posted on 4/9/21 at 4:50 pm to OMLandshark
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Arizona is still decently red for the most part.
not the part that counts the votes
Posted on 4/9/21 at 5:45 pm to Freauxzen
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Would be a purely evil act. There is no reason to do this except to get their own way
McConnell blocked Garland because it was an election year but then advances Barrett less than a month before the election. Hard to blame the left for being upset
Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:21 pm to AggieHank86
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Most Americans were taught starting in our first Government class back in Jr. High or High School that "court packing is bad" in the context of FDR.
That sort of early education sticks, and I think that even a lot of Dem voters will have problems with their Dem elected representatives if they proceed with this notion.
You been asleep last 20 years?This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:45 pm to OMLandshark
Could you imagine what would happen if joe manchin got in a plane crash or something? In an instance cocaine Mitch would be back in charge at 50-49 and then 51-49 once the governor of West Virginia appoints his replacement.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 7:07 pm to udtiger
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it's 5-4 at best, period.
No way in hell would I consider Robert’s to be conservative
Posted on 4/9/21 at 7:11 pm to theronswanson
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McConnell blocked Garland because it was an election year but then advances Barrett less than a month before the election. Hard to blame the left for being upset
The Republican controlled senate refused to give consent. Not holding a vote is the same as withholding consent.
The GOP gambled that Clinton would lose and they were right. If they ended up being wrong she would've nominated someone even more hard left than Garland is. That was their decision as a co-equal branch when it comes to Supreme Court nominations.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 7:16 pm to MFn GIMP
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or setting term limits for justices
Unfortunately that is unconstitutional and the court will strike that down with a vengeance. That will crest an interesting powerplay but the court gets the final say
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