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re: Biden blowing up the pipeline would do more to fight "globalism" than anything Trump
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:01 am to The Maj
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:01 am to The Maj
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Why do you dismiss significant population reduction coupled with pain/discomfort to get the remaining population to throw themselves onto the mercy of their government overlords?
We really are not that far from it..
Yeah that's not going to result in a 25% global population reduction
Maybe you're just crazy and none of these goals are achievable or even trying to be achieved by anyone with real power
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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Then it's not globalism. It's US imperialism.
Yes, exactly. "Globalism" as we know it is an Anglo-American imperialistic system. 
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:01 am to moneyg
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Does Europe and the United States engaging in a full blown war against Russia really harm globalism?
We keep talking about "globalism". It's the West (U.S. and the EU) versus the East (BRICS countries). The BRICS including the Saudis are not playing ball with the West right now. They are doing their own thing.
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 8:03 am
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:02 am to GumboPot
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Your theory is Putin did it for a false flag to claim political martyrdom on the global stage.
I see the logic but it belies the fact that all Putin has to do is turn a valve.
If he turns the valve he's the bad guy.
If he creates a situation where he's a victim of fate, he's not the bad guy.
It's kind of like why Putin always floods areas he invades with Russians prior to invasion and then claims he's protecting ethnic Russians. He doesn't have to do it. All he has to do is invade. But it gives him a perceived justification.
Same reason why he created his convoluted bullshite with Ukraine. None of it makes sense, but he can claim defense.
Hell, he's now claiming Ukraine is the aggressor nation based on the same stupid and unnecessary "logic".
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:03 am to Powerman
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achievable or even trying to be achieved by anyone with real power
Maybe they are...
You seem a bit chippy again this morning... Your mangina inflamed again? Tell your boo to quit being so hard on you...
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:03 am to SlowFlowPro
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Um...why wouldn't you?
You wont need billions, millions, thousands or even hundreds of ppl to run them
You need a musk
The elites will never be living in the stone ages
It will be like The Line in SA
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:04 am to moneyg
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Does Europe and the United States engaging in a full blown war against Russia really harm globalism?
Well that's only IF the EU went along with us. If we blew up the pipeline, they likely wouldn't and it's more likely they may ultimately become closer to Russia. That would drastically harm globalism.
A nuclear war would also drastically harm globalism.
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Does making the European people ridiculously dependent on the government to provide heat in their homes really harm the "New World Order"? Keep in mind, it's very possible that globalism wasn't desired for globalism's sake. Many think it is another means to an end for the "great reset" or "New World Order".
The EU is already willingly going down this path.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:05 am to Snipe
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Can we stop pretending that the US had anything to do with the NS2 pipeline being blown up or shut down? It's Russia doing Russian things. The only thing the US had any involvement in was making it a certainty that the EU would be dependant on Putin and Russia for energy. As soon as that happened, most everyone knew that Russia would spring the trap right before winter to force the EU to back Russia or at least not put up any fight. Ray Charles could see this coming. THe US has a weak President and administration that is getting played left and right on the world stage and the whole world knows it. Americans are the only stupid ones that can't see it.
Biden and Nuland are on video literally saying they were going to do it at the beginning of the year.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:06 am to The Maj
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You seem a bit chippy again this morning...
No. I'm just laughing at you because you're clearly insane and capable of believing the most asinine bullshite that anyone could make up off the top of their head
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:06 am to SlowFlowPro
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If he turns the valve he's the bad guy.
If he creates a situation where he's a victim of fate, he's not the bad guy.
To what end?
I mean, you aren't talking about reputation. He's already the "bad guy". And, this isn't going to change that.
So, what specifically is he/Russia going to gain?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:07 am to The Maj
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It actually ranges from a 25% to a 75% reduction depending on who is spouting what...
No. The original CT had it in the sub-1M population. Typically 500-600k.
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So, go with the 25% and tell me how they get there
Again, major nuclear war.
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You are saying the only way to get there is through nuclear war?
Unless your time frame is in the decades, possibly centuries. Developing nation have higher birthrates than the areas that would see war. Look at the historical deaths from conventional warfare. You can add in famine, too. Won't kill enough people with developing birth rates.
Hell, it would take decades even with a Children of Men scenario, where no new babies were being born.
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Why do you dismiss significant population reduction coupled with pain/discomfort to get the remaining population to throw themselves onto the mercy of their government overlords?
Because this theory requires lots of leaps of logic, starting with the people enacting this scheme and how that would play out.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:08 am to Mo Jeaux
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Yes, exactly. "Globalism" as we know it is an Anglo-American imperialistic system.
100% not how it's often used on here.
The WEF is primarily continental European run by Germanics.
Anglo-American imperialism is more aligned with Trump's policies (Which were "anti-globalist")
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:08 am to Powerman
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capable of believing
Not dismissing does not equal believing... Sorry that your simple mind cannot grasp multiple concepts and put pieces together in a logical manner as potential outcomes/desires...
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:09 am to Mo Jeaux
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I'm not sure why you seem to be so hesitate to a view that we will enforce the world order that we currently run.
I don't think Powerman or myself has problems with the US hegemonic world order existing.
That just isn't what "globalism" is often stated as being (again, nobody has ever provided a universal definition, but US hegemony is the ordinary world order, now the NWO)
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:10 am to SlowFlowPro
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If he turns the valve he's the bad guy.
If he creates a situation where he's a victim of fate, he's not the bad guy.
This is such a childish theory. If Putin closed the valve and was concerned about losing the propaganda war from the NYTs and WaPo as Europeans are freezing and can't make fertilizer then he could just open the valve.
We are talking about billion of dollars and the U.S. potentially losing EU leverage to Russia due to energy dependence. Germany trading in rubles and losing political and economic leverage over the biggest country in the EU is not in our best interest.
We should just come out and say it. Yeah, we blew up Nord Stream. Now what Putin? Come at us.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:10 am to SlowFlowPro
Further driving home the neocon imperialism point...
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Caitlin Johnstone
@caitoz
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2h
The Wolfowitz Doctrine, set up after the fall of the USSR, made it US policy to ensure no other superpower develops which can rival US supremacy. It's important to understand that this wouldn't just apply to nations like Russia and China, but to the EU as well.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:11 am to moneyg
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I mean, you aren't talking about reputation. He's already the "bad guy". And, this isn't going to change that.
Then why do all the stupid bullshite prior to invading Ukraine (twice), Georgia, etc.?
He was going to be the "bad guy" no matter what. Why create a bullshite narrative with a propagandized defense?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:11 am to SlowFlowPro
Only if you look at it from the perspective of the citizens.
Globalist have an intermediate goal that is contrary to the citizens, and destruction of the gas supply will facilitate reaching that goal.
Globalist have an intermediate goal that is contrary to the citizens, and destruction of the gas supply will facilitate reaching that goal.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:12 am to SlowFlowPro
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100% not how it's often used on here.
Well, sure. It's not like you openly advertise it.
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The WEF is primarily continental European run by Germanics.
Well, the WEF has a lot less power than many believe. It's the equivalent of an industry group, whose primary function is to put together social activities
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Anglo-American imperialism is more aligned with Trump's policies (Which were "anti-globalist")
No, not at all. How can an imperialistic system be anti-globalist? Imperialism by its very nature is "inter", not "intra".
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:13 am to GumboPot
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This is such a childish theory.
Says the guy that started a thread saying that the U.S. is declaring war on the EU countries by blowing up the pipelines
With 0 evidence
YOU
ARE
A
CLOWN
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