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re: Biden blowing up the pipeline would do more to fight "globalism" than anything Trump

Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:51 am to
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:51 am to
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The elites would be subjugating themselves to feudal or Middle Ages living standards.



No they wouldnt
Robots are coming to replace all that
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:51 am to
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But that's not globalism

That's the U.S. swinging our dick around and putting the EU in their place


Exactly.

Klaus Schwab and the WEF are either powerful European leaders of globalism or cucks to US domination. They can't be both.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:51 am to
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To the extent that it's often discussed? No.


So how do they get to a 50% reduction in population? You think they are going to go with forced sterilization and wait for the 50% to die naturally in order to get to that point?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:52 am to
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No they wouldnt
Robots are coming to replace all that

Robots don't just run themselves
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63786 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:52 am to
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Can we stop pretending that the US had anything to do with the NS2 pipeline being blown up or shut down?


I mean, we've only made allusions to doing so, and it's not like our government doesn't have a history of nefarious activities. I don't understand completely writing off that we would do so.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:53 am to
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So how do they get to a 50% reduction in population? You think they are going to go with forced sterilization and wait for the 50% to die naturally in order to get to that point?

50% reduction is a much larger population than what the original CT said. You must be reading some off brand cuck version.

And to get even the cuck version of the CT, that would take nuclear war, basically.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:53 am to
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Robots don't just run themselves


So now you need workers to run robots


Ok
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63786 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:55 am to
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But that's not globalism

That's the U.S. swinging our dick around and putting the EU in their place



That's our globalism. Unless you subscribe to a somewhat naïve worldview that globalism entails every country just holding hands and doing whatever they please.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:55 am to
Nah. You don’t assume control when everything is going smoothly. You seize power during a crisis.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:57 am to
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There is a conspiracy angle so dumb that you could have never imagined it incoming to counter this very obvious point



And your arguments are so weak you resort to ad hom.

First of all name the conspiracy?

Second, it is universally agreed that the pipeline(s) were sabotaged.

Third, who sabotaged the pipeline(s)?

Your theory is Putin did it for a false flag to claim political martyrdom on the global stage.

I see the logic but it belies the fact that all Putin has to do is turn a valve.

My theory is the U.S. sabotaged the pipeline(s). My evidence is that the U.S. has the capability with submarine torpedoes, has the motivation to keep Germany and the EU countries in the economic bosom of the U.S. and to cut of Russian leverage.


Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
17428 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:57 am to
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THe US has a weak President and administration that is getting played left and right on the world stage and the whole world knows it.



Yep
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63087 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:57 am to
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Biden blowing up the pipeline would do more to fight "globalism" than anything Trump
dreamed of doing.

The backbone of "globalism" is the liberal world order that began being built after WW2, which really ramped up after the fall of the USSR and the first Iraqi invasion (where the international community was really galvanized and together).

The 2 primary components of "globalism" are the US and EU.

The US fricking over the EU for no reason would have disastrously terrible effects on the relationship between the 2 parties.

How can there be "globalism" when the US fractures the very relationships that create it? The US and EU being at odds with each other would literally rewrite the world order and unwind anything that could ever be imagined as "globalist".



I think the argument/concern is that this is a means to an end.

Does Europe and the United States engaging in a full blown war against Russia really harm globalism?

Does making the European people ridiculously dependent on the government to provide heat in their homes really harm the "New World Order"? Keep in mind, it's very possible that globalism wasn't desired for globalism's sake. Many think it is another means to an end for the "great reset" or "New World Order".

If that sounds like conspiracy theory talk, that's because it is. If you look at this in a vacuum, I agree that the US blowing up the pipeline is a big frick you to the Europeans. I just don't think you can afford not to look a little further down the road.

Let's look at it another way. Under the assumption Biden did blow up the pipeline, why?
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:57 am to
How do we know Trump didn’t do it………?
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:57 am to
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50% reduction is a much larger population than what the original CT said


It actually ranges from a 25% to a 75% reduction depending on who is spouting what...

So, go with the 25% and tell me how they get there... You are saying the only way to get there is through nuclear war?

Why do you dismiss significant population reduction coupled with pain/discomfort to get the remaining population to throw themselves onto the mercy of their government overlords?

We really are not that far from it...
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:58 am to
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So now you need workers to run robots

Um...why wouldn't you?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:58 am to
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That's our globalism. Unless you subscribe to a somewhat naïve worldview that globalism entails every country just holding hands and doing whatever they please.


No

That sounds like America first and the rest of the world has to bow down to us

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:58 am to
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Nah. You don’t assume control when everything is going smoothly. You seize power during a crisis.

The crisis already existed. Europe wasn't getting gas this winter due to Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:00 am to
I don’t know what’s dumberer, thinking drug dealers are going to murder kids with fentanyl candy this Halloween or thinking the US popped nordstream.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:00 am to
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That's our globalism.

Then it's not globalism. It's US imperialism.

quote:

Unless you subscribe to a somewhat naïve worldview that globalism entails every country just holding hands and doing whatever they please.

Well nobody has actually defined "globalism" since Trump made it a talking point, but the usage is closer to what I just quoted than US imperialism and the US being in direct conflict with the EU
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63786 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:00 am to
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That sounds like America first and the rest of the world has to bow down to us


America First isn't about the rest of the world bowing down to us.

I'm not sure why you seem to be so hesitate to a view that we will enforce the world order that we currently run. We have a history of putting countries in their place when they try to have their own system.
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