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re: Bethany Hamilton says she will NOT compete in the World Surf League if they allow trans in

Posted on 2/7/23 at 7:03 am to
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 7:03 am to
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Good for her. Hope enough supporters show her she is on the right path her, and don't let these mentally ill evil people bully her. We need women/girls to stand up and voice there opinion on this, but need men to defend them....cause let's not forget mentally unstable MEN are the ones attacking her and our women/girls.


She has already lost if she is going to quit....the bullies have defeated her.

Women need men to defend them on social issues???? WOW, talk about devastating to women....a man in a bikini winning a surfing trophy is the end of the world but stating and believing that women need men to defend them is AOK. WOW
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 7:06 am to
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The mental illness to truly believe this is mystifying.

Transphobic? Nah. No one is scared of these people. I do feel pity for them. Must be hell to be so mentally ill that you believe you are the opposite sex.



Apparently she is scared or at least concerned she can't best them in a surfing contest. I suspect she is correct, assuming that surfing is as physically demanding as it appears to be....she won't be able to compete so why bother to try? That is not a personality trait that most people would find attractive in an athlete and a competitor but for some reason bring a man in a bikini into the mix and all reason and logic leaves the room LOL. There is something irrational about that.
Posted by LaMigra
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 7:09 am to
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I suspect being "one of" if not THE best women surfers in the world would place a person somewhere in the neighborhood of maybe the 50,000 best surfer in the world all genders included. WHo really cares about the 50,000 best person doing anything???


My god what a freaking ignorant post!! Tell me you never played sports at a high level without telling me you did!!

Damn ignorant post!!
Posted by TygerTyger
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 7:16 am to
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AwgustaDawg


Dude, Gaucho already has this character well established here.

So find a new troll game.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 7:16 am to
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Having HS aged kids it is shocking how many kids think they are trans. Its double digits at a 5A school. However, from what I have seen ALL of them go back to being themselves when they grow out of that phase.

We know one family that had a boy (thought he was a girl) dating a girl (who thought she was a boy). Eventually these children realized how stupid that was and decided they were who they were born to be. Still dating.

It's become something fun to do. Kids will grow out of it if you let them and don't cut off anything or give them hormones.



We moved into a subdivision 2 years ago full of 10-13 year old girls. We had a 10 year old at the time daughter. She quickly made friends with 10 girls between the ages of 10-13. Every one of those girls claimed tobe a lesbian. 100%. 2 years later nary a one of them remembers that phase LOL. Not a single one of them will admit that they ever claimed to be gay but they all did just a couple of years ago. We knew all of the parents and many were about to end their lives over it....most of us knew it was exactly what it was...kids being kids and trying to get a rise out of people, especially their parents. When they failed to do so they ended their efforts along that path and are now all boy crazy as 12-15 year old girls have been since time out of mind.

That being said it is obvious that there has been some % of people who were actually gay....not by choice but they were simply attracted to people of their own sex. They have existed in every society at every point in human history. There are examples of this in all mammals by the way. That person is going to have some tough times in their life most likely. Those times are probably going to be fewer given that kids today do not see homosexuality as weird but only different. Those girls in our subdivision are less likely to be hateful to homosexuals because they examined their own sexuality and concluded that they were straight and homosexuals probably do the same thing only concluding they aint straight....they do not decide. The same is true of some trans people I am certain. I don't understand it but I also do not understand a lot of stuff and the older I get the more I realize I don't know....
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 7:18 am to
Lol liberals suck. Yeah let’s ridicule this woman because she wants to keep a space for actual women.



Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 7:34 am to
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Lol liberals suck. Yeah let’s ridicule this woman because she wants to keep a space for actual women.


I want to keep a space for middle aged fat white dudes. We like to fish and drink beer and aren't particularly good at either compared to those who are really good at it but by dam we deserve a space where we can compete at it against one another and by god folks best be interested or we will accuse them of being weight/age/hetero phobic.

The "space" for actual women is a joke in any endeavor where women are participating in an activity which requires physical attributes and men also compete in that activity. IS anyone actually interested in womens basketball??? I know that many are supportive of their schools of choice but is the WNBA ever going to survive without the subsidy from the male dominated NBA??? Of course not....no one cares. It is not in the least compelling. It would be the same if old bald white men like me wanted to play basketball competitively...no one would care.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 7:51 am to
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My god what a freaking ignorant post!! Tell me you never played sports at a high level without telling me you did!!

Damn ignorant post!!



I openly admitted from the get go that I was ignorant of surfing but some quick research indicates that I was spot on...women can't compete with men in surfing. They do not have the physical attributes, generally, to achieve the style points that are part of the scoring matrix in most events. There events are also frequently cancelled when conditions are not ideal because it is not safe where the men continue to compete in those same conditions.

I played high school football through the 12th grade on a team that played in the 5A state semi final game and we made the playoffs every year I was in high school. I started as an O lineman as a freshman and started/played on both sides of the line from 10th grade on. That ain't a high level but it is a level. Had some offers from what would be FCS schools now but was done with football and had a academic scholly so never played another down. Surprisingly we had a girl on my varsity team in the 19th grade. She was our long snapper and was VERY good at it....but she couldn't run wind sprints to save her life and gave it up and quit. I hated wind sprints also but I wasn't bent that way....I am sure she would have dominated a girls football league in high school...she was tough as shoe leather and hard as a rock. Just wasn't physically strong enough to play HS football. She was also a really good center but again she would get winded after a couple of plays at practice and fall out during wind sprints during 2 a days. I suspect that, had she been allowed to play youth football like the rest of us, she may have had the physical ability to keep up. She wasn't because football wasn't for girls and there werent any girls only leagues where she could pretend to play the game like there was for softball and basketball. That is why I say womens sports such as they are today only serve to keep women from competing. Some could well do so at all levels if they were encouraged to do so from an early age and not told they couldn't but you can go play in the special olympics....but I am the one who has a problem LOL.
Posted by Loserman
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 7:57 am to
I’ll all for women standing up against “trans” women competing in their sports ,
Except they are doing it wrong


They should drop the trans woman label, and just tell the truth and say “ I refuse to compete against men competing in women’s sports
Posted by SOSFAN
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:07 am to
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There is something irrational about that.


The only thing irrational is agreeing that anyone can physically change genders. Science tells you it's a lie. Again switch it from men/women to xx/xy competition and bathroom ect ... When the mentally ill can change their chromosomes then we can circle back
Posted by SOSFAN
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:10 am to
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Surprisingly we had a girl on my varsity team in the 19th grade.


That's a long time to go to highschool must be where Stetson Bennett came from.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:20 am to
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The only thing irrational is agreeing that anyone can physically change genders. Science tells you it's a lie. Again switch it from men/women to xx/xy competition and bathroom ect ... When the mentally ill can change their chromosomes then we can circle back



You can't change biology but you can certainly change gender given that, by definition, gender is outside the constraints of biology and is based on cultural and social traits and has nothing at all to do with biology. Gender is a social construct that has NOTHING to do with physical trait or characteristic. It is entirely possible to change one's gender by choice....adapt the social norms and your done. Why anyone would want to is beyond me but why anyone wouold care is also...
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:22 am to
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Surprisingly we had a girl on my varsity team in the 19th grade.


That's a long time to go to highschool must be where Stetson Bennett came from.


Best 19 years of my life! LOL...
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:30 am to
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She just signed her career termination letter.

Sadly, this is the unfortunate reality of today: Toe the line or say sayonara to your career.


How did that work for Chik fila and Hobby Lobby? The lesson to be learned is you can be normal and respectful and not give in or feel the need to apologize just because some crazy people are losing their minds . Drew Brees is a good example of what not to do.
Posted by SOSFAN
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:34 am to
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You can't change biology but you can certainly change gender given that, by definition, gender is outside the constraints of biology and is based on cultural and social traits and has nothing at all to do with biology. Gender is a social construct that has NOTHING to do with physical trait or characteristic. It is entirely possible to change one's gender by choice....adapt the social norms and your done


As a gay man let me tell you that everything you just posted about gender and biology is a lie. Gender and biology are tied into each other 100%. Funny how they call it a gender reveal party and not a social construct party. The lie about gender being a social construct was made to fit an agenda but it doesn't make it real . If you're stating that gender is a mental issue then it backs up the theory that gender dysphoria is a mental illness as biologically you're fine but mentally you're not. Lying to people telling them they can be any gender they want is ludicrous and harmful to mentally ill people. You should immediately stop with your misinformation.
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 8:37 am
Posted by stout
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:37 am to
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You can't change biology but you can certainly change gender given that, by definition, gender is outside the constraints of biology



You are a moron and a freak
Posted by phutureisyic
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:39 am to
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The question is who really cares if men in skirts dominate women's sports??? Has anyone ever watched women's sports? It ain't exactly compelling. If there are a bunch of men playing in the WNBA it might actually be worth watching...as it is it ain't. The same is true of softball, tennis, golf....who cares and who watches????


I'm guessing you don't have a daughter or any kids at that.
Posted by SOSFAN
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:40 am to
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it....but she couldn't run wind sprints to save her life and gave it up and quit. I hated wind sprints also but I wasn't bent that way....I am sure she would have dominated a girls football league in high school...she was tough as shoe leather and hard as a rock. Just wasn't physically strong enough to play HS football. She was also a really good center but again she would get winded after a couple of plays at practice and fall out during wind sprints during 2 a days. I suspect that, had she been allowed to play youth football like the rest of us, she may have had the physical ability to keep up. She wasn't because football wasn't for

Extremely doubtful that she could have kept up. It is a proven fact that men have larger hearts and larger lung capacities. Allowing a man to compete against women is taking away from women. To state otherwise is to lie.
Posted by TDTOM
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:43 am to
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We had a 10 year old at the time daughter.


Please don't have anymore.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:44 am to
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be....she won't be able to compete so why bother to try? That is not a personality trait that most people would find attractive in an athlete and a competitor


I find a man wanting to compete against women being unattractive as an athlete. Anyone with a basic knowledge of biology knows there are huge physical differences between male and female. As sports are based on physical abilities and not a social construct then men should never be allowed to compete against women.
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