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re: Bethany Hamilton says she will NOT compete in the World Surf League if they allow trans in

Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:46 am to
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12186 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:46 am to
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is entirely possible to change one's gender by choice....adapt the social norms and your done


This has been fact checked and shown to be FALSE. Nothing more than misinformation.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:50 am to
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I find a man wanting to compete against women being unattractive as an athlete. Anyone with a basic knowledge of biology knows there are huge physical differences between male and female. As sports are based on physical abilities and not a social construct then men should never be allowed to compete against women.
The pedantic insistence upon “equality“ is the annoying element of all this.

It makes perfect sense to group males and females into the same competitive classes in… for instance… a chess tournament. The competition is a test of brain power.

It makes zero sense to put them in the same class in… for instance… pole vaulting. The competition is a test of upper body strength.
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 9:07 am
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12186 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:53 am to
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makes perfect sense to group males and females into the same competitive classes in… for instance… a chess tournament. The competition is a test of brain power.

It makes zero sense to put them in the same class in… for instance… pole vaulting. The competition is a test of upper body strength.


I agree with you on this statement.
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 8:57 am
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28587 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 8:57 am to
Why is there a separation between men’s and women’s sports? Obvious Answer: there is a significant difference in physical features.

But now, we are told gender is not a physical manifestation. Gender is now a subjective perception. If gender is no longer tied to physical traits, the basis for separating men’s/women’s sports no longer exists.

But of course, in reality, the vast majority of us, including SJW’s, know gender is not a subjective belief, it is in fact a natural physical manifestation, and therefore there is in fact a real justification for separation of sports.

But instead of taking a logically consistent approach in either enforcing the separation or totally doing away with the separation, our “solution” is to take a contradictory position out of fear of lawsuits and the woke mob. Out of one side of our mouth we are saying there are physical differences between the genders and therefore there needs to be separation, and out of the other side we are saying gender is a subjective perception and therefore people born “male” can join women’s leagues if they perceive themselves to be “female.”
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12186 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:01 am to
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AwgustaDawg


Just like liberal filth. Drops a post full of misinformation and lies then logs off and runs and hides when confronted with their BS.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:06 am to
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Hey you are the FSU fan, not me.


Does 2013 ring a bell dumbass?
Posted by Fububutsy
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Jan 2007
3949 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:11 am to
Trans women are men.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12186 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:13 am to
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Trans women are men.


This has been fact checked and found to be True.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:14 am to
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Hey you are the FSU fan, not me. Does 2013 ring a bell dumbass?
grown men hurling insults over a football game in which they did not play 10 years ago.

JFC
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21757 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:17 am to
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It makes perfect sense to group males and females into the same competitive classes in… for instance… a chess tournament. The competition is a test of brain power.


Do we know for a fact there aren't any differences there? The brain is a physical object, built with the same set of instructions that built your bicep. We're supposed to assume that your genetic blueprint drives nearly everything about you but it has no impact on the part between your ears?
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:19 am to
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grown men hurling insults over a football game in which they did not play 10 years ago.



Actually, 9 years ago dumbass.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:20 am to
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9 years ago dumbass
February 2023 vs January 2013?

OK
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 9:25 am
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:25 am to
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January 2013?



They were National Champions for the 2013 season.

The game was played in Jan 2014.

I only pointed it out because it was you, Hank the contrarian.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:27 am to
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The game was played in Jan 2014.
you are correct. My bad.

It is still a stupid thing to be arguing about on a politics board.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260427 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:29 am to
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Trans women are extremely confused men.


This has been fact checked and found to be True.


Aye
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:29 am to
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It is still a stupid thing to be arguing about on a politics board.



I know, I just couldn't let it go.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140397 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 1:04 pm to
Lol. You believe men can get pregnant.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
6978 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 1:18 pm to
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As a gay man let me tell you that everything you just posted about gender and biology is a lie. Gender and biology are tied into each other 100%. Funny how they call it a gender reveal party and not a social construct party. The lie about gender being a social construct was made to fit an agenda but it doesn't make it real . If you're stating that gender is a mental issue then it backs up the theory that gender dysphoria is a mental illness as biologically you're fine but mentally you're not. Lying to people telling them they can be any gender they want is ludicrous and harmful to mentally ill people. You should immediately stop with your misinformation.


Find any definition of the word gender from any respected source and from any period in time and it will categorically include social norms and expectations and exclude biology. I can't help that words have meanings.

People have gender reveal parties because they are revealing the social norms and expectations THEY carry for their unborn child. Nothing I ever heard of at a gender revealing had anything at all to do with biology and I wonder how it could??? Most of the time there is something blue or pink revealed....there is no larger social construct regarding human sexuality that associating pink with girls and blue with boys...that is the essence of what gender is, by definition. Gender is not a mental issue it is a social expectation of norms, period. It has ALWAYS been defined as such by any reputable source but somehow folks have twisted it into meaning sex or biology.

A person CAN absolutely be any GENDER they wish...they can go back and forth...all it requires is to present ones self in a socially acceptable manner as a male or a female. Most of us do it EVERYDAY in the way we dress and conduct ourselves. There is NOTHING biological about that, it is custom. It is entirely possible that a biological male can go through life as a woman by gender simply by dressing and conducting themselves as a woman. No one would ever know unless there was biological proof. If any one doubts it has happened you have missed out on a significant amount of human history...it is common and has taken place forever, for whatever reason. This is actually more in line with the thinking that gender dysphoria is a mental illness because it is not customary for a biological male or female to go about in society as a member of the opposite GENDER. I don't know why so many people are worked up over the meaning of words...unless of course they have some doubts as to their own sexuality and then all bets are off....
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
6978 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 1:20 pm to
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is entirely possible to change one's gender by choice....adapt the social norms and your done


This has been fact checked and shown to be FALSE. Nothing more than misinformation.


So explain the legions of instances of it having happened throughout the history of the species. I will hang up and wait. It is common and always has been....for whatever reason, mental illness, criminal activity, whatever, there have always been and always will be biological me and women living as members of the opposite gender amongst us....and many of them will never be exposed because Gender is all about custom and societal norms and expectations and has NOTHINg to do with biology....
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
6978 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 1:26 pm to
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Lol. You believe men can get pregnant.


Biological men? No, my friend, I know for a fact that they can not. Only an idiot would believe that or ask someone if they beleieve that. A biological woman who identifies as a male sexually can indeed become pregnant if that person is healthy and intact because that person is a female biologically but a man in respect to sex and gender. Sex and gender have zilch to do with plumbing both are social constructs referencing norms and expectations. Biology on the other hand is not ambiguous. A person can feel like a man, believe they are a man and go through life as a man but be a biological woman. Why that is so disturbing to so many people is beyond me.
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