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re: Being a Christian has nothing to do with the Israeli government & war machine

Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by Red_and_black
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2014
748 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:36 pm to
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So you're basking in lies, and you love basking in lies


Wow dude take a chill pill, You seem full of rage. I'll pray for you.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50542 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:37 pm to
Lord have mercy you're stupid



the children of Israel are those who have accepted Jesus Christ
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50542 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:38 pm to
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Wow dude take a chill pill, You seem full of rage. I'll pray for you.



because you love lying?

that's your justification?
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2638 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:40 pm to
I don't always go looking for Theological truth but when I do it's from some retard on the Poli board


Posted by Red_and_black
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2014
748 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:41 pm to
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because you love lying?
that's your justification?


So disagreeing with you is lying ? Trust me, I disagree with you because you do not teach the truth, You teach hate and that is not compatible with Christ or his mission. "You will know false teachers by their fruit"
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50542 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:45 pm to
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Jesus cursed the fig tree, which represented unbelieving Israel, who had the appearance of godliness but no fruit of it.

In Romans 9-11, Paul speaks of Israel of God’s covenantal people being branches cut off from the tree of life so that the engrafting of the Gentiles would cause them to repent and turn to Christ.

The remnant of Israel remains, but as Paul says, not all who are Israel are so by blood, but by faith. Only those who believe the promises of God by faith are partakers of the covenant promises of everlasting life in Christ.

No one should be “cursing” Israel but God, because that is His prerogative to do so, but we are not to view unbelieving Jews as our spiritual brothers. There is but one body of Jesus Christ, and that is His Church, comprised of Jew and Gentle who trust in Jesus for their salvation. Anyone who rejects Christ as the Messiah, whether Jew or Gentle, will receive their just punishment in Hell.

We should pray for the salvation of all, including the Jews, but they are not our brothers if they reject our Lord.




Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50542 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:53 pm to
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So disagreeing with you is lying ? Trust me, I disagree with you because you do not teach the truth, You teach hate and that is not compatible with Christ or his mission. "You will know false teachers by their fruit"



What did I teach that was false?


I'm waiting...
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50542 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:56 pm to
So saying that some Palestinian brothers are Christians is "not teaching the truth"?


Let me guess, you can only be a Christian if you're a short haired good ole boy who sells used cars or is a sheriff's deputy, and your wife weighs 239 pounds...


is that it?
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50542 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:59 pm to
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You teach hate




I "teach hate" because I'm against war and murder?


You think you're right because you love seeing women and children and elderly slaughtered in Gaza?


Atheist Satanic piece of shite Benjamin Netanyahu is your buddy and you're proud of it?
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50542 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 4:00 pm to
who did you get it from today?

Be specific, and what did you learn?
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
42151 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 4:25 pm to
Imagine claiming to be a Christian and simultaneously defending at every turn the people who murdered your supposed savior. These people are despicable.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 4:28 pm to
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the people who murdered your supposed savior.




Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
14820 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 4:51 pm to
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Also, love the arguments that because Israel didn't have a homeland for nearly 1,900 years that somehow that nullifies the argument that they are God's chosen people


If they are his chosen people, why is he sending them to Hell for not believing in Jesus?
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
22028 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 5:12 pm to
Every post of yours is full of hate for the Jews and those who disagree with your hatred. And, no I am not believing any liars. I just disagree with those who hate so much. Funny, in a sad, pathetic way, you mock anything pro Israel as propaganda, yet you feel you are speaking the holiest of truths. To your Nth time, if Israel laid down its arms, what would happen to it as a country? If Hamas laid down its arms? And again, for the Nth time, why won't any Arab country accept Palestinians? Egyptians beat them up & deported them. But, enough hate, going to enjoy Father's Day weekend with my great family.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50542 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 6:04 pm to
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full of hate for the Jews and those who disagree with your hatred.



you're a pathological liar and you can't read

look at the thread title

many Jews around the world and IN Israel do not support their war machine

you've made yourself look stupid so now you're content with compounding that with interest and tripling down on your lies

you're the epitome of what's wrong with America - You

shame on you
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50542 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 6:05 pm to
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SCLibertarian




my boy
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 6:20 pm to
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Every post of yours is full of hate for the Jews and those who disagree with your hatred


Such a feminine way to argue
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 12:01 am to
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that's an absolute lie

Syria and Palestine both had Christian populations living in peace there

When has Palestine had an official govt? Ever?

And as far as Syria, Lulz
quote:

However, in recent times, the Syrian Christian community has faced numerous challenges, including ongoing and severe persecution, displacement, and emigration. Christians in Syria made up about 10% of the pre-war Syrian population but now make up less than 2%, falling from 1.5 million in 2011 to just 300,000 in 2022 due to the impact of the Syrian Civil War.

Christians in Syria have also been subjected to violence and discrimination by Islamic State fighters during their control of large areas of the country. Their churches have been converted into military headquarters, and their property confiscated. Persecution of Christians in Syria has further intensified. In Aleppo, the country's second largest city, the proportion of Christian residents fell from 12% pre-war to 1.4% in 2023 with more than 20 churches damaged during the war.

The city of Idlib has been almost entirely depopulated of its Christian population under Islamist rule. Some governments and organizations including the United States have claimed that the persecution of Christians in the Middle East and North Africa, especially in Syria and Iraq, constitute an act of genocide.

Youre simply clueless. Like I said, the Israeli govt is the only GOVERNMENT in the region protecting Christians
Posted by Grinders Switch
Member since Oct 2022
15 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:06 am to
Christians are God's true "Jews" today, Israel is the church!

You believe in Replacement theology if…
Most churches teach replacement theology so this should be quite easy for you to see…
…you believe the Bible when it says Christians are the true Jews today: Romans 2:28-29: "For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh. But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from men, but from God. ", "for we [Christians] are the true circumcision, who worship in the Spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus and put no confidence in the flesh, " (Philippians 3:3)
…you believe that Israel is the church: "For neither is circumcision anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creation. And those who will walk by this rule, peace and mercy be upon them, and upon the Israel [church] of God." (Galatians 6:15-16) The peace in this passage is for those who walk according to Christ so CANNOT refer to fleshly/physical Israel that utterly rejects Christ.
…you believe Jews must believe in Jesus to be saved and are as lost as Muslims and atheists until they do. (Jn 3:16; Jn 14:6)
…you believe the New Testament (second covenant) of Jesus Christ replaced the Old Testament (first covenant) Jer 31:31 + Heb 8:6-13
…you believe that keeping both the First and Second covenants at the same time is like a woman married to two men at the same time (Romans 7:1-7)
…you believe the body of the Christian is the temple that God dwells in today not some building made of stone, wood or curtains. (1 Cor 3:16; 6:19-20)
…you believe the Saturday Sabbath was abolished and Christians worship on the first day of the week (Sunday).
…you believe the calendar of 7 Jewish feasts are not to be kept by Christians: Passover (Pesach), Unleavened Bread (Chag Hamotzi), First Fruits (Yom habikkurim), Pentecost (Shavu'ot), Trumpets (Yom Teru'ah), Atonement (Yom Kippur), Tabernacles (Sukkot).
…you believe that the entire law of Moses has been abrogated and replaced by the law of Christ and that if you want to keep just one part of the law of Moses, YOU MUST KEEP IT ALL!
…if you believe that you do not need to be circumcised to be saved. Acts 15:1-3
…if you believe there is no distinction in the mind of God towards all men: Jew or gentile, rich or poor, male or female (Gal 3:28-29)



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The church is true Israel and
Christians are God's true "Jews" today.
(Left: Jewish High Priest)
1. Christians are the true Jews and true Israel today
2. The church is God's Israel today.
3. Physical Israel is equal to the gentiles today and like the Gentiles, must believe Jesus rose from the dead in order to be saved from punishment.
Posted by Grinders Switch
Member since Oct 2022
15 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:12 am to
“This is a trustworthy saying: If we die with him, we will also live with him. If we endure hardship, we will reign with him. If we deny him, he will deny us. If we are unfaithful, he remains faithful, for he cannot deny who he is.

Remind everyone about these things, and command them in God’s presence to stop fighting over words. Such arguments are useless, and they can ruin those who hear them.

Run from anything that stimulates youthful lusts. Instead, pursue righteous living, faithfulness, love, and peace. Enjoy the companionship of those who call on the Lord with pure hearts. A servant of the Lord must not quarrel but must be kind to everyone, be able to teach, and be patient with difficult people. Gently instruct those who oppose the truth. Perhaps God will change those people’s hearts, and they will learn the truth. Then they will come to their senses and escape from the devil’s trap. For they have been held captive by him to do whatever he wants.”
??2 Timothy? ?2?:?11?-?14?, ?22?, ?24?-?26? ?NLT??
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