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re: Being a Christian has nothing to do with the Israeli government & war machine

Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:25 am to
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
3860 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:25 am to
The hand of the LORD was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley which was full of bones,

2And caused me to pass by them round about: and, behold, there were very many in the open valley; and, lo, they were very dry.

3And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest.

4Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.

5Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:

6And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

7So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone.

8And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above: but there was no breath in them.

9Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.

10So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.

11Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.

12Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

13And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,

14And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.

15The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,

16Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions:

17And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.

18And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these?

19Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.

20And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.

21And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:

22And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:

23Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.

24And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.

25And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.

26Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.

27My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

28And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:28 am to
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Evangelical Protestants are the backbone of Zionism in America.


That is the perception and narrative advanced by media. IS it true?

Believers in Jesus Christ and His Gospel and legit versions of the Bible do not dwell on the deceptions of Scofield 'Bible' and its erroneous re-interpretations that support Zionism.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:30 am to
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President Trump said we're not going to war with Iran. I believe him.

So far, I've seen no evidence of it. What are you guys so fearful of?


You are totally and completely FOS.

You've been lobbying for Israel's war here HARD since it began.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:31 am to
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Read the Talmud if you want to know what Jewish teachings think of non jews and Jesus.


Ooops.

But...that's a "conspiracy".
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
3860 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:33 am to
Remember your living in a time after Israel became a nation, if you go back and read history from 1947 back you will see almost all the people were looking forward to a nation of Israel for the return of Christ.


Even Newton wrote of this in the 1700's and told people in the future Israel would return by air one day to the area around Tel Aviv.
This post was edited on 6/14/25 at 10:35 am
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20103 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:33 am to
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The Catholic faith hinges on Jesus Christ, who the Jews don’t recognize as the messiah. I’d be expelled from my church for such views, yet many feel we should risk entering WW3 for the Jews. I can’t get a handle on that.


A Jew cannot even be a God parent in the Catholic Church. I want to say Jews and Muslims are both banned lol

Kind of shows you the interesting situation some of us feel like we are in. You want us to fight for someone we won’t let be part of the church? It’s confusing.
This post was edited on 6/14/25 at 10:35 am
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:34 am to
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We know your stand from all of your gleeful posts yesterday and last night.

Lindsey.


Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25480 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:36 am to
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Being a Christian has nothing to do with the Israeli government & war machine


And just for the record, I'm a catholic. But I've been around waspy BR/NO/North LA to know enough about you mega church types. You hate me too because I pray to Mary every now and then. However most of you are fricking retards so it's tough to really expect much.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
7889 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:38 am to
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Evangelical Protestants are the backbone of Zionism in America. And of them its mostly the 50 and up crowd.
Once the boomers die off Zionism in America is fricked.

quote:

TigersHuskers

I'm sure you get a chubby seeing all the dot Indians and moslims being imported, as you cheer on all the White people dying off.
Posted by FriendofBaruch
Member since Mar 2025
878 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:38 am to
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I know you haters wont ponder a thing. So blast away with the usual name calling its really all you have. So Chistian of you.
You would really like to spit on the "so called Christians" then, as is your custom?

sure seems like it, you mental midget

a good thing you tucked tail and disappeared from our little conversation
This post was edited on 6/14/25 at 10:41 am
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:38 am to
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Being a Christian has nothing to do with the Israeli government & war machine

True

But they are the only govt and war machine protecting the rights of Christians in that region. You let the other side take that area, then their next target is Christians. See the crusades, a time when the govt and war mongering Israel did not exist

The enemy of your enemy, is your friend. Now get some meds for your retardation, and take a nap
This post was edited on 6/14/25 at 11:06 am
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:39 am to
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folks still hold to Old Testament


For many reasons.

One of them are the reminder of prophecies that still apply during these Last Days ("as in the days of Noah")

quote:

I believe the current state of Israel is not the Israel of Abraham that is spoken of.


Agree. And that's where the Scofield Bible was created with the intent to deceive Christians.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50542 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:39 am to
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Let me remind you haters




there you go...

If you could read properly, you would see the topic is the Israeli government and war machine


There are many Jewish people all over the world who hate that entity too, and some even live in Israel

Stop making it about race since you're too stupid to comprehend anything except yelling "anti semite"
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12219 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:43 am to
There is almost nothing in common with biblical Judea and modern day Israel. European Jews were not the Israelites in the Bible. The land and people of those two times are completely different.
Posted by IamNotaRobot
OKC
Member since Nov 2021
1826 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:46 am to
Go sell seashells by the beach damn hippy
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
3860 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:46 am to
History is our friend, if you do not read it, you lose it.

Yes, modern Israel is the same people of ancient Israel.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89820 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:47 am to
Do Christians want to see the holy land under Muslim control?

Them not wanting Jews there is what started this to begin with. It would probably be under a more hostile regime towards Jews and Christians if you were to give it up now.


Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:48 am to
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Once the boomers die off Zionism in America is fricked.


This is so true. They were brainwashed so badly
This post was edited on 6/14/25 at 10:48 am
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12219 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:51 am to
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Yes, modern Israel is the same people of ancient Israel.


No it isn’t. One was a tiny small remote area. One was created out of thin air by Politicians and Military Men after WWII. One contained actual Israelites native to the region. The other contains a bunch of European Jews from all over Europe. Not the same land not the same people. Biblical Judea and Modern day Israel are two distinctly different things. I’m sorry you Boomers don’t understand this.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50542 posts
Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:56 am to
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Do you not trust President Trump on this?




after him trashing Rand Paul and Thomas Massie? No, I don't trust him going forward unless he can show me I should


pretty damn easy answer
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