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re: Based on SCOTUS opinion DOJ asks Boasberg to cancel 4/8 hearing - *UPDATE: Hearing Vacated

Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:26 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:26 am to
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But Boasberg had no jurisdiction.

Sure. Fine. Wasn't my argument.

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Correct me if I am wrong but lost in all this is maybe the inference that District Court judges don't have the power to make sweeping nationwide orders.

You're wrong. The USSC ruling implies that the TX courts could have done this as they were the purported proper venue. The ruling didn't address this power directly.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68819 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:26 am to
Some of you don’t understand what the Court did. They didn’t give the Administration free reign to do whatever it wants. Going forward, deportees must be given notice and a chance to plead their case. The Court even suggested that detainees may be entitled to habeas relief.
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 8:27 am
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2402 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:28 am to
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You said they had rights and due process


That is what the government argued from the very start of this case.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:28 am to
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That is what the government argued from the very start of this case.


There is a split between the admin and MAGA online influencers/grifters.

You can tell which one SDV is following.
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 8:29 am
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55283 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:29 am to
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come down hard on him. I would if I was Chief Justice.


That's what she said.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26714 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:30 am to
I'm at least partially right. This would address the judge shopping the Left loves to do. Chuckles the Clown in San Francisco won't be able to hear a case that happens in Alabama anymore. Boasberg in DC can't rule on cases from anywhere anymore if this means what I think.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
19864 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:32 am to
The left is trying to claim some sort of victory in being shot down.

Its like the black knight from Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:33 am to
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Chuckles the Clown in San Francisco won't be able to hear a case that happens in Alabama anymore

ONLY for habeas petitions, not for the examples I believe you're thinking of
Posted by Reagan80
Earth
Member since Feb 2023
2330 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:37 am to
Probably not happening, he will look for a way to find DOJ in contempt.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8421 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:47 am to
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Going forward, deportees must be given notice and a chance to plead their case. The Court even suggested that detainees may be entitled to habeas relief.


My understanding of the court order is as follows

1. The court where they are detained is the court with jurisdiction

2. The people detained are allowed sufficient time to file a habeas corpus

The question becomes what is a sufficient time and the potential arguments for habeas corpus

It should be a relatively swift procedure while they remain detained
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22751 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:53 am to
Please don’t cancel and continue the judicial misconduct.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23781 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:56 am to
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My understanding of the court order is as follows

1. The court where they are detained is the court with jurisdiction

2. The people detained are allowed sufficient time to file a habeas corpus

The question becomes what is a sufficient time and the potential arguments for habeas corpus

It should be a relatively swift procedure while they remain detained


I hadn't read or heard what Cajunangelle posted until now, that 5 were removed from the plane because they proved they were incorrectly picked up. If this is accurate, then those picked up were afforded an opportunity to prove themselves legal.

I don't understand why a person would need any type of official "hearing " to prove if they're legal.
Any person here legally could prove this easily.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79428 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 8:59 am to
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You said they had rights and due process


so did the supreme court

the court just told them they need to file in texas.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39667 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 9:02 am to
Give the Left their due, you can bet that they applied Constitutional law in the *asylum* immigration process such that once here they knew the whole thing would stall and lock up in an ‘interpretation’ process. Law which reflects the original Intent and spirit of the Constitution has long been abandoned as have the requirements that immigrants abandon their former ideological allegiance to that of the Constitutional Republic. There is no grey area in regard to the Constitutional Republic/“inalienable Rights from God” and any contrary (re) interpretation of said Intent and Rights. A “reinterpretation which is in fact a “fundamental transformation “ and nullification of Constitutional P. The arguments which frame the above contrarian scenario are just fluff and ‘bloviating’ as both sides realize that given the polar opposite of said underlying ideology, the struggle becomes a zero sum game. One Side’s gain is another’s loss…of power for either the Government or the Individual. The Left will and does use the Constitution to destroy it, and the Culture which grows from said ideology. SFP’s legalistic arguments are impeccable in this regard. Bottom line: those of us who lived in the 1950s know what real freedom and security feels like. And illegal immigrant MS-13 would have been gunned down in the street by the seasoned warriors in the community with zero supposed Constitutional Muh due process or lawyerly doublespeak. “Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools”. Live and learn.
Posted by Rabby
Member since Mar 2021
1732 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 9:06 am to
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it's time to introduce this guy and his daughter to a predawn raid by FBI and leak it to faux news in advance.
FIFY
As you should recall the US Marshals did not play that game - that was those other feds...
There is a very different culture between those two agencies and people should give credit and/or blame where they are due.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5291 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 9:35 am to
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2. The people detained are allowed sufficient time to file a habeas corpus. The question becomes what is a sufficient time and the potential arguments for habeas corpus


I'd be interested to see how this fared in a case under the AEA. The quote below is from the text of the US Constitution.

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The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.


There may be precedent re the AEA and the actual use of habeas corpus, I don't know. Since the AEA can be invoked for "an invasion or predatory incursion" that threatens "the public safety", as defined by the President, which are among the conditions that the constitution allows for suspension of habeas corpus, it's not clear that habeas corpus is always available under the alien enemies act.
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 9:49 am
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
87208 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 9:38 am to
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court just told them they need to file in texas.


Good luck judge shopping In Tx.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115400 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 9:39 am to
That's not going to happen.

He will continue to show his arse.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79428 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 9:46 am to
This won’t be decided at the District court level but they are less likely to get a TRO.

Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16396 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 9:57 am to
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