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re: Banning vaccine passports - how is this a conservative / small government stance?
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:24 pm to LSUFanHouston
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:24 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Not at all. You asked for an example, I gave two.
And that's it? Those 2, are the reasoning of your response that "religious schools are allowed to discriminate" (paraphrasing). Also, what can/can't you do at those universities. I don't follow them enough to know of their requirements.
Also, do you really want to use private schools as an apt comparison to the airline industry?
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:24 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Banning vaccine passports - how is this a conservative / small government stance?
When we've gotten to a point where the GOP is treating corporate America as if they're some untouchable sovereign entity that's above reproach, that's when the GOP has jumped the shark.
It's a mindset that started in the 80s and has only gotten worse since.
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For over a year, we've been yelling that businesses should be allowed to make their own decisions.
Within reason.
Government will always have a role and a responsibility to stymie corporate overreach.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:26 pm to deathvalleytiger10
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Actually, this is incorrect. The business is making that choice for the individual in this instance.
What?
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:29 pm to Powerman
The business would, in effect, be forcing the employee to waive his or her 4th amendment rights as a condition of employment. At minimum, extremely problematic. The best parallel I could make is a drug test, but I’m not sure the interests of the business could be argued similarly with a vaccine passport.
And unlike Christian bakery or Hobby Lobby, there is no religious protection for the business to leverage
And unlike Christian bakery or Hobby Lobby, there is no religious protection for the business to leverage
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:30 pm to LSUFanHouston
How and where are black people supposed to get vaccine passports?
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:30 pm to Sentrius
Someone as ignorant as the op in even asking this question really does not deserve a response let alone 7 pages . If they are too stupid to understand the concept by now, they will never comprehend any response.
Fill in 1930s Germany and ask why companies can’t require all Jews to wear a star ... there is your answer.
Also, these companies did not come up with this out of the blue, the cdc/govt was recommending and rc wanted to start sailing
But... hey... why do we need context
Fill in 1930s Germany and ask why companies can’t require all Jews to wear a star ... there is your answer.
Also, these companies did not come up with this out of the blue, the cdc/govt was recommending and rc wanted to start sailing
But... hey... why do we need context
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:34 pm to BugAC
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And that's it? Those 2, are the reasoning of your response that "religious schools are allowed to discriminate" (paraphrasing). Also, what can/can't you do at those universities. I don't follow them enough to know of their requirements.
Two is more than zero.
I didn't say it was all schools. And that's my point. If more school did it, they would have trouble finding paying customers.
Again, the market works.
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Also, do you really want to use private schools as an apt comparison to the airline industry?
I'm not comparing two industries... I'm discussing all industries.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:35 pm to Powerman
The business is absolutely deciding for the individual.
"You can't do business with me until you get medical treatment that I dictate."
"You can't do business with me until you get medical treatment that I dictate."
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:36 pm to deathvalleytiger10
His point is that the individual isn’t forced to accept it. They can resign.
I don’t necessarily agree with that, but he isn’t wrong.
I don’t necessarily agree with that, but he isn’t wrong.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:36 pm to LSUFanHouston
Individual liberty > private corporation power
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:37 pm to Vacherie Saint
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he best parallel I could make is a drug test, but I’m not sure the interests of the business could be argued similarly with a vaccine passport.
You can't?
Companies want employees to not have drugs in their body (pass a drug test) because they believe employees on drugs will, at best, skip out on working, at worst, their drug use will cause problems at work (someone high driving a forklift and crashing it, for example).
An unvaccianted employee *could* infect other customers and employees, etc.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:38 pm to Landmass
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Individual liberty > private corporation power
So presumably you are against night clubs and restaurants that have dress codes right?
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:38 pm to Landmass
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Individual liberty > private corporation power
So then we should force a bakery to bake a cake for a tranny, right?
Why should the private corporation have the power to decide to not do so?
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:43 pm to Vacherie Saint
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They can resign.
The OP was about vaccine passports in general, not employment. My posts are directed at businesses that would require vaccine passports in order for a customer to do business with them.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:46 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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but what?
What I said, keep looking and keep looking naming viruses.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:47 pm to LSUFanHouston
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An unvaccianted employee *could* infect other customers and employees, etc.
So? People come to work sick all the time. You ok with firing anyone who is sick, pregnant, or injured? Where do the company’s rights end and mine begin? When are rights absolute?
At least Hobby Lobby could point to religious protections In the constitution to justify their position. You don’t have that here. The employee, however, could argue that his 4th amendment rights are being violated.
Look, you are clearly stupid as frick and ill equipped to have this debate. That said, I know you won’t go away so I’ll leave you with this, again. Nothing is absolute. Not all cases are the same. If they were, we wouldn’t need a judicial system.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:53 pm to Powerman
Medical records fall under constitutional protections, personal dress doesn’t.
Cmon man. You’re better than this.
Cmon man. You’re better than this.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:56 pm to Vacherie Saint
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So? People come to work sick all the time. You ok with firing anyone who is sick, pregnant, or injured? Where do the company’s rights end and mine begin? When are rights absolute?
At least Hobby Lobby could point to religious protections In the constitution to justify their position. You don’t have that here. The employee, however, could argue that his 4th amendment rights are being violated.
You made the comparison to a drug test.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:58 pm to LSUFanHouston
Yes, I did. That’s the best comparison I could make. Why would I refute my own analogy?
You, on the other hand, made the lazy and Retarded comparison to Hobby Lobby.
You, on the other hand, made the lazy and Retarded comparison to Hobby Lobby.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 4:03 pm to LSUFanHouston
I am a little confused. Can you square this up for me?
First...
And then....
In one instance, you are against government saying a business can't do something and then in another, you are for it.
First...
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If a business wants to require all of their customers to be vaccinated, they should have that right.
Let the market decide. If it's a crappy policy, then their business will fail because of it.
And then....
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So then we should force a bakery to bake a cake for a tranny, right?
In one instance, you are against government saying a business can't do something and then in another, you are for it.
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