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re: Average yearly pension for a retired NYC fireman is $171k/year.
Posted on 8/15/25 at 3:29 pm to BoudinChicot
Posted on 8/15/25 at 3:29 pm to BoudinChicot
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There's certainly worse shite taxpayer funds are being wasted on
This is the turd in the punch bowl. No politician from the right or left are going to get elected and have any kind of consensus from other lawmakers with the message of "We're gonna cut Firefighter pensions!".
How about that billion dollars you wasted over there in the harbor, what about this billion dollars the city spends on leasing office space, what about this billion dollars wasted in the last bridge project?
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Posted on 8/15/25 at 3:30 pm to 4cubbies
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It doesn't make sense to sky scream about people getting something he doesn't get but wants to get.
The implication here is that public unions have used political pressure to distort their compensation AT OUR EXPENSE. It’s not petty to push back against this.
This is not like bitching that Taylor Swift gets paid too much. I don’t have to subsidize Swift.
This post was edited on 8/15/25 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 8/15/25 at 3:32 pm to 4cubbies
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This is somehow different from the PPP "loans" that Trump gave away to the upper class? What are people obligated to be mad about? Just stuff that happened with someone registered as a D was president?
We're seeing more and more Dim politicians getting busted for stealing the taxpayer's hard earned money. $500k here a $750k there, no one will catch us.
Posted on 8/15/25 at 3:37 pm to Bass Tiger
How many of them live in New York. I talked to a fire fighter in SF one time that told me half their department lived in Wisconsin and would work 2on 2 off
Posted on 8/15/25 at 3:37 pm to ksayetiger
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You really think a few weeks working the WTC site is going to cause some mass cancer outbreak?
Even if true, how many firefighters were there total amd for how long?
And libertardians wonder why no one likes them
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The City of New York estimates that over 91,000 individuals assisted in total, all of whom were exposed to the toxic mixture of dust, smoke, and chemicals arising from the wreckage. As the responders managed the psychological effects of their work, new questions arose. What would the time spent at ground zero mean for their physical health in the coming years?
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19 percent higher risk of prostate cancer
thyroid cancer—the meta-analysis from JNCI found an 81 percent increased risk
41 percent more likely to develop leukemia
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Other studies showed 34% increase for melanoma among other cancers
Posted on 8/15/25 at 3:38 pm to Penrod
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The implication here is that public unions have used political pressure to distort their compensation AT OUR EXPENSE. It’s not petty to push back against this.
Public Unions is half the problem. The politicians are the other half.
After Enron and Wall Street snatching up companies for their retirement funds, private company pensions were more heavily scrutinized. My companies pension, like others, is funded independent of the company all of it is FUNDED and verified. All retirement funds both public and private needs to be set up the same way.
Posted on 8/15/25 at 3:39 pm to Bass Tiger
I really wonder how long can they pay out?
Posted on 8/15/25 at 3:39 pm to Bass Tiger
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I know the cost of living in NYC is quite high but to think a person who works +30 years for the NYC fire department, retires in their 50's is making $171k/yea
Had a jury in Florida and half were retired ny foreman or policemen and all making Jack on pension and SS benefits - they are all near the beach and no worries
Posted on 8/15/25 at 3:40 pm to Bass Tiger
They don't have to live there to draw the pension do they?
shite, retire and go to somewhere nice down south and live like the upper crust. They could easily afford a nice place in Fairhope, AL for example.
shite, retire and go to somewhere nice down south and live like the upper crust. They could easily afford a nice place in Fairhope, AL for example.
Posted on 8/15/25 at 3:44 pm to sparkinator
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That’s the scary part. Government officials are doling out OUR tax dollars to whoever will keep getting them elected or keep their party in power regardless of how it affects everyday Americans. They should be held accountable for spending us into insolvency. The press and voters should be more vocal when these deals are struck.
I’ll do ok in retirement, but I’m one of the fortunate few that won’t be severely hit in the wallet. And I’ll have 30+ years with my company. But my company pension will be a very small part of my monthly income.
I had the option of a monthly pension payment or a lump sum. I took the lump sum in December 2022 before the new interest rate calculation dropped my lump sum payout. It's worked out pretty well.
Posted on 8/15/25 at 3:44 pm to sparkinator
Public pensions are overpaid on the whole, pointing out a contingent of fire fighters who worked 9/11 is just fricking stupid though
Average NYC fire fighter salary is $64k, the median income for a small family in NYC is $145k
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They get paid shite while actually working. Good luck getting people to be firemen or police if you want to pay them minimum wage
Teachers unions are the biggest issue
Average NYC fire fighter salary is $64k, the median income for a small family in NYC is $145k
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They get paid shite while actually working. Good luck getting people to be firemen or police if you want to pay them minimum wage
Teachers unions are the biggest issue
Posted on 8/15/25 at 3:45 pm to Bass Tiger
Those are rookie numbers.
Check out Commiefornia firefighters on Transparent California.com
Check out Commiefornia firefighters on Transparent California.com
Posted on 8/15/25 at 3:46 pm to deeprig9
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This is the turd in the punch bowl. No politician from the right or left are going to get elected and have any kind of consensus from other lawmakers with the message of "We're gonna cut Firefighter pensions!".
How about that billion dollars you wasted over there in the harbor, what about this billion dollars the city spends on leasing office space, what about this billion dollars wasted in the last bridge project?
Yeah. I don't get this pocket-watching grievance for the people who are first responders. Police and firefighters often get pretty fat pensions but they're doing dirty work to keep us all safe. Of all the things in government spending to fixate on, are we really going to lock in these folks actually doing practical service to their community?
Posted on 8/15/25 at 3:47 pm to Bass Tiger
What a joke… Trump does more work in 1 hour than a firefighter does in their whole career.
Posted on 8/15/25 at 3:48 pm to Diego Ricardo
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Yeah. I don't get this pocket-watching grievance for the people who are first responders. Police and firefighters often get pretty fat pensions but they're doing dirty work to keep us all safe. Of all the things in government spending to fixate on, are we really going to lock in these folks actually doing practical service to their community?
So theres no amount of money you wouldn't give for these people? How about $300k/year for all firefighters and police? And servicemen.
What number would make you balk?
Posted on 8/15/25 at 3:48 pm to RohanGonzales
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They don't have to live there to draw the pension do they?
shite, retire and go to somewhere nice down south and live like the upper crust. They could easily afford a nice place in Fairhope, AL for example.
I'm not sure if the retired firemen get SS but if they do tack another $30k-35K on to their annual income, yeah, with $150-200k in retirement income you could be living large in Fairhope, Muscle Shoals, somewhere in the Ozarks, the Villages, etc.
Posted on 8/15/25 at 3:48 pm to RohanGonzales
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They don't have to live there to draw the pension do they?
shite, retire and go to somewhere nice down south and live like the upper crust. They could easily afford a nice place in Fairhope, AL for example.
I believe one of the disincentives against changing residence is that states usually have tax advantages if you drawing pension from their state as a resident. Alabama is probably going to want a cut of that income from an out of state pension though.
This post was edited on 8/15/25 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 8/15/25 at 3:49 pm to Diego Ricardo
It also becomes election fodder - "the republicans are gonna cut firefighter pensions!" and the low-info voters eat it up. We can't give them this fodder.
Posted on 8/15/25 at 3:50 pm to GeauxBurrow312
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They get paid shite while actually working. Good luck getting people to be firemen or police if you want to pay them minimum wage
Yea typically the pay isn’t good but retirement is in fire service. FDNY doesn’t want a bunch of 50 and 60 year olds trying to rescue people in fires. There’s only so many administrative positions open. Most do 20-25 years and have to check out. You get old quick as a FF.
Posted on 8/15/25 at 3:51 pm to Bass Tiger
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I'm not sure if the retired firemen get SS
No not typically unless you worked a side job that paid into SS. If so it depends on how much you paid in and how long you did it like anyone else paying in.
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