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At COP china and India announce they will expand coal plants, why continue the conference?

Posted on 12/3/23 at 3:37 am
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13345 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 3:37 am
Two years ago the increase, just the increase in pollution by china offset the entire rest of the world's reduction in carbon footprint. And keep in mind, this does not count their belt and road initiative where the number one expenditure is the building of coal fired power plants throughout the rest of the world.

The world will look back at the times we are living in the same way we view things like WW2.....how on earth could you not see what was coming, what it was about.

Nearly 80,000 people meeting in the desert, in the desert to discuss global warming, change, or whatever the buzz word is. Private jets, houses at the beach, yet no stoves for us. Its all about control and wealth transfer nothing more.
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
13240 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 6:55 am to
China and India basically told every other country
“One more thing

Posted by TrueTiger
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67780 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:02 am to
Trump was right for pulling the US from the Paris accords.

All it did was put us at an economic disadvantage while the rest of the world goes on to pollute anyway.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10816 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:06 am to
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It turns out that the world's richest 1 percent emit about the same amount of carbon as the world's poorest two-thirds, according to an analysis from the nonprofit Oxfam International.
This means that a small sliver of global elites, or 77 million people, have produced as much carbon as the 5 billion people that make up the bottom 66 percent by wealth, per the study.
The study also estimates that it would take roughly 1,500 years for someone in the bottom 99 percent to produce as much carbon as the wealthiest
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260218 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:18 am to
Because Western Europe and the USA are making all the sacrifices.

Its communism. Steal from you and I, give to those who time has passed by.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:19 am to
This is a big problem I have with the global warming crowd. They focus their efforts on countries already complying with their demands, but ignore those which aren't. Of those which aren't, China emits more greenhouse gases than the US and EU combined. To reach China's emission levels you have to lump the US, the EU and India together (at least as of 2021 numbers).

Why aren't protestors stacked outside of Chinese embassies? Why aren't they calling for a ban of all Chinese-made (or even Chinese-related) products? Why aren't they gluing themselves to streets and runways in China?

Because they aren't serious enough about it to go that far. It's far easier to get that warm and fuzzy feeling of righteousness by bitching and moaning to those who will tolerate your antics than it is to be serious enough about your convictions to risk life and limb by protesting towards those who may retaliate.
Posted by aubie101
Russia
Member since Nov 2010
3090 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:21 am to
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It turns out that the world's richest 1 percent emit about the same amount of carbon as the world's poorest two-thirds, according to an analysis from the nonprofit Oxfam International.
This means that a small sliver of global elites, or 77 million people, have produced as much carbon as the 5 billion people that make up the bottom 66 percent by wealth, per the study.
The study also estimates that it would take roughly 1,500 years for someone in the bottom 99 percent to produce as much carbon as the wealthiest

What article is this from? Love to send this to some of my leftwing environmental family members.
Posted by bamacoullion
Fayette, Alabama
Member since Oct 2008
1772 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:44 am to
Carbon is NOT a problem. Do you have any idea what the percentage of carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere is?

.04 % .04% up .01% from .03%

Anything below .03% plant life dies.

What's the percentage of that .04% is human activity you might ask?

11% of .04%, a very small percentage.

And morons want to wreck shite over this and people are buying it
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14846 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:56 am to
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Why aren't protestors stacked outside of Chinese embassies? Why aren't they calling for a ban of all Chinese-made (or even Chinese-related) products? Why aren't they gluing themselves to streets and runways in China?





Because it isn't about carbon or the climate, it's about the destruction of the West.
Posted by DamnGood86
Member since Aug 2019
944 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:28 am to
Climate control is a psyops and the west is the only one falling for it.

Gender fluidity is a psyops and the west is the only one falling for it.

Immigration is a psyops and the west is the only one falling for it.

Etc, etc, etc.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10816 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:47 am to
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What article is this from?
study from oxfarm international. If you google a paragraph, it's been reported by abc, cnbc, etc
LINK
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
13937 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:24 am to
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Its communism. Steal from you and I, give to those who time has passed by.


Typical Marxism. The only way they know how to make the weak strong is to artificially make the strong weak.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
29990 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:09 am to
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At COP china and India announce they will expand coal plants, why continue the conference?


well that just means america will have to cut back even more to balance it out, thats how this works
Posted by salty1
Member since Jun 2015
4429 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:29 am to
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Climate control is a psyops and the west is the only one falling for it.

Gender fluidity is a psyops and the west is the only one falling for it.

Immigration is a psyops and the west is the only one falling for it.


Our fricked up governments are the ones inventing this bullshite, or in illegal immigration’s case, allowing it to happen. “The powers that be” are making more billions, and 50% if the population is happily writing the check, or forcing us to write the damn check.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34089 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:36 am to
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Carbon is NOT a problem. Do you have any idea what the percentage of carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere is? .04 % .04% up .01% from .03% Anything below .03% plant life dies. What's the percentage of that .04% is human activity you might ask? 11% of .04%, a very small percentage. And morons want to wreck shite over this and people are buying it


We are in a carbon famine.

Trees need carbon.

It is my understanding that trees
have to produce an enzyme to protect themselves from “oxygen poisoning,” and that producing it to the degree that they currently are is stressing the trees.

Lastly, an increased amount of carbon allows the trees to better handle drought.

It would seem as though the increase in CO2 is why arid areas are “re-greening” with no discernible difference in rainfall.

In short, we are being lied to.
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
5559 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:40 am to
Who cares about carbon? Not me.

Criteria pollutants yes. Carbon dioxide and water vapor, no.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
7767 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:46 am to
We need to end the attack on coal plants…. Let them run again.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19509 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:54 am to

And we’ll pay China and India billions to remain on coal, while we have rolling blackouts.
Posted by BlueDogTiger
Member since Jan 2014
1309 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:59 am to
Climate Change is Marxist propaganda. It is nothing but the defeat of the US. China is defeating the US every day by utilizing the Leftist. China will defeat the US by not firing a shot. The US will not have any energy stockpiles and our infrastructure will be easily destroyed when needed.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
51540 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 12:28 pm to
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Because it isn't about carbon or the climate, it's about the destruction of the West.



For those with the money to drive the narrative, yes. However, there are looooots of suckers who have bought into it enough to think they are actually accomplishing something but trying to punish western countries (ie: places where they do not risk nearly as much as they would if they were trying this in/against China).
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