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re: As if I’m JBE, present to me your strongest argument as to why we should open back up

Posted on 4/23/20 at 7:30 am to
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 7:30 am to
China wins every day we don’t open back up
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465279 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 7:30 am to
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But if we find a good treatment in a month that severely curtails future deaths, the lockdown will start looking really good. You see?

How many coronaviruses do we have a real treatment for? I don't think it's many. This is like hoping for a vaccine in the next 2-3 months
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 7:32 am to
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China wins every day we don’t open back up


Please provide evidence to support this assertion.
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
41408 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 7:33 am to
OP is consumed be FakeNews and inaccurate sources.
Does "logic" have a place in your scientific worldview?
Posted by CptRusty
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 7:34 am to
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The anti-shut down types are also guessing about the economic toll even


It really isn’t a guess, the economic toll has been severe and will continue to get worse the longer this drags on, barring additional trillion dollar cash infusions - which I am not a fan of.

Meanwhile, everything about this virus has been a guess from day one, and we have made all decisions based on worst case scenario. On day one this is excusable. On day whatever-we-are-now, it’s stupidity.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12575 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 7:35 am to
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Show me the comparison peon I don’t have the time to do your work for you.

frick off dipshit. Just like JBE, someone is always doing the work for you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 7:38 am to

from the CDC (via NYT)
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 7:38 am to
I’ll never get the appeal of trolling.
Posted by cahoots
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 7:40 am to
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Posted by CptRusty
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 7:44 am to
You’re right, I’m sure we would have lost 26MM jobs since Feb. without the shutdown.

I understand not wanting to jump to conclusions, but pretending the shutdown is not having a severe economic impact is just plain stupid.
Posted by cahoots
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 7:44 am to
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Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465279 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 7:45 am to
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it's very much a guess as to which part is attributable to mandated orders and which part is attributable to personal decisions

You can't make this argument while mandates are ongoing
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 7:45 am to
People not working = shite economy.
Posted by griswold
Member since Oct 2009
4235 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 7:46 am to
Show me your scientific sources for keeping it shut down. Computer models? GFY
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 7:50 am to
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Show me your scientific sources for keeping it shut down. Computer models? GFY


I’m not for either way. There’s a lot of fervent support for opening on here and based on the information provided thus far there’s really no basis. If I was JBE I wouldn’t take your recommendations based solely on the fact you have zero to back it up.
Posted by RidiculousHype
The Hatch
Member since Sep 2007
10716 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 7:53 am to
Patients on ventilators in Louisiana:
April 4 - 571
Now - 287

Have a good day Governor.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465279 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 7:54 am to
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If I was JBE I wouldn’t take your recommendations based solely on the fact you have zero to back it up.

The $100M field hospital in Nola shows that whatever "science" he is working with hasn't exactly been correct. This board literally had better advice
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
12956 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 8:01 am to
Natural Selection
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82042 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 8:04 am to
Because they told us the only reason for the shutdown was to "flatten the curve" so hospitals weren't overrun. Even in a hot spot like New Orleans, hospitals are still far under capacity.
Posted by RidiculousHype
The Hatch
Member since Sep 2007
10716 posts
Posted on 4/23/20 at 8:05 am to
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There’s a lot of fervent support for opening on here and based on the information provided thus far there’s really no basis.

I disagree with your premise that the default state of things should be lockdown.

Lockdown proponents should have to justify the lockdown every day that it exists, not the other way around.

They justified it early on by saying it was the only way to not overwhelm the hospitals.

What is the justification now?
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