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As expected, Dems are soft-launching abolishing the electoral college

Posted on 11/13/26 at 12:26 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
71574 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 12:26 pm
A small price to pay for temporary $4/gallon gas. Glad the far-right and never trumpers made their "statement" this cycle.

Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
71574 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 12:26 pm to
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
31467 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 12:28 pm to
Gavin Newsom talking about votes not counting

What s fool this greasy MF'er is.
Posted by aubie101
Russia
Member since Nov 2010
4432 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 12:30 pm to
The Orange princess caused this,,, Thank him and you will see the real cause.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
43171 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 12:30 pm to
Abolishing the Electoral College would, in my opinion, justify seceding from the Union by any means.
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
8020 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 12:31 pm to
The work of geniuses undone by morons.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
87063 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 12:34 pm to
I think the EC Compact some states are discussing violates the Guarantee Clause of the Constitution.

Art. 4, Sec. 4 says

quote:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence."


Allowing your electoral college votes to be pledged not by the voters of your state, but by the national popular vote, violates the guarantee that each state shall ensure a Republican form of government. It disenfranchises your own voters.

It’s novel and clever and I don’t even hate the ingenuity, but I think it’s plainly against the text (and spirit!) of the Constitution.
Posted by JohnnyMackBrown
Member since Nov 2026
242 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 12:36 pm to
I hope they try this. Dems always overplay their hand
Posted by back9Tiger
Island Coconut Salesman
Member since Nov 2005
18379 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 12:39 pm to
Democratic Republic.

No majority rule.

Liberals want L.A., Chicago and NYC to be the voice of the entire country while places like Kansas, Arkansas, most of the south... have no voice.

The EC was put in place for every state (you know that tricky UNITED STATES part), to have a voice.

frick you Newsom
frick you Democrats

This is a hill to die on.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
21146 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

It’s novel and clever and I don’t even hate the ingenuity, but I think it’s plainly against the text (and spirit!) of the Constitution.


Since some states have already implemented this why aren’t there suits from within those states challenging the Constitutionality now while we have a conservative SCOTUS.

Other than republicans never do shite…which is the obvious answer.

Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
87063 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 12:45 pm to
That’s a good question and I think the answer is that its been seen more as not serious before this and there is a trigger mechanism in each state’s law that it’s only in effect once a threshold is met (which hasn’t been). It may get kicked on standing grounds as there is no actual case or controversy for a federal court to adjudicate since it is not yet in effect.

Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
71574 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

The Orange princess caused this

Mouthbreathers such as yourself would gladly give up every right you have just to make yourselves feel superior to everyone else.

Congrats, you did it!
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2913 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 12:51 pm to
It violates

equal protection: each state has a different system; from registration, to who can vote, to method of voting, to how they are counted/audited/etc.

and

due process: the jurisdiction votes for candidate X but the law makes it so candidate Y wins the jurisdiction.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
29929 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 12:55 pm to
I have to ask, does this matter with a blue Texas?
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
15278 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 12:56 pm to
quote:


The Orange princess caused this,,, Thank him and you will see the real cause.


nonsense, par for you
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
26564 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 12:56 pm to
I personally think the states should have their own EC so the big cities can't decide the outcome for the whole state.
Posted by 2 Jugs
Saint Amant
Member since Feb 2018
2504 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 12:56 pm to


quote:

Abolishing the Electoral College would, in my opinion, justify seceding from the Union by any means.


100%
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
6361 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Since some states have already implemented this why aren’t there suits from within those states challenging the Constitutionality now while we have a conservative SCOTUS.



No standing? Same reason Louisiana's law banning abortion that only kicked in if Roe v Wade was overturned wasn't challenged.

Democrats are being short sighted with this push. If they truly turned Texas blue, there wouldn't be any contest. Since 1992, 15 states had always voted blue and 13 always red with a 193-103 advantage. Flipping Texas gets them to 233-63.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2913 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Since some states have already implemented this why aren’t there suits from within those states challenging the Constitutionality now while we have a conservative SCOTUS.


Because nothing has happened. There is no case to be heard. Someone could try to create a controversy based on where we are at right now - say someone says the possibility of this being implemented has caused some sort of harm, but I am not sure what that could look like.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
10140 posts
Posted on 11/13/26 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

Democrats are being short sighted with this push. If they truly turned Texas blue, there wouldn't be any contest. Since 1992, 15 states had always voted blue and 13 always red with a 193-103 advantage. Flipping Texas gets them to 233-63.

no one seems to realize that we are in the early stages of a single party state.
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