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Artificial Inteliigence Liberal Bias

Posted on 6/9/26 at 5:11 pm
Posted by Judnnc
Member since Jun 2025
670 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 5:11 pm
I went to ChatGPT just to frick with it. Below is an abbreviated version of a conversation I had with it. My intention was to debate illegal immigration, but it never got off the ground.

Me: If I can prove you are biased to the political left, would you acknowledge it?

AI: I cannot be biased, I hold no opinions and am here to provide information and assistance. However, if you feel you’re able to prove I am, I will gladly admit it. What do you want to talk about?

Me: Citizens should obey their countries laws, correct? Yes or no?

AI: No, when it comes to moral issues (goes on to list examples of liberal causes).

Me: Wow. Morality is subjective, don’t you think?

AI: Not always (goes on to list liberal causes and the morality of them).


At that point, I gave up.
I was going to ask it about illegal immigration but saw where it was heading. AI advocates breaking the law for leftist causes, I guess. We are doomed.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16640 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 5:14 pm to
It will admit that if all the data it imports is from bias organizations it would be inherently bias also.

Ignorant of any alternatives because it is incapable of reasoning.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139510 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 5:16 pm to
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At that point, I gave up.
Don't.
Force the AI engine to LOGICALLY admit it's mistake.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
111141 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 5:19 pm to
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(goes on to list examples of liberal causes).


I would like a better idea of what actual laws it set forth as examples of being "immoral."
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139510 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 5:19 pm to
E.g., I asked ChatGPT the identical question:
quote:

Q: If I can prove you are biased to the political left, would you acknowledge it?


A: If you present evidence that a particular response, pattern of responses, or behavior reflects a systematic political bias, I can evaluate that evidence and discuss it.

A few distinctions matter:

A single mistake is not necessarily evidence of political bias. It could be a factual error, poor wording, uneven sourcing, or misunderstanding of the question.
A consistent pattern of treating similar cases differently based on political direction would be stronger evidence of bias.

Bias in outputs is different from intentional bias. Even if a model is designed to be politically neutral, it can still produce skewed results because of training data, reinforcement methods, safety policies, or other factors.

OpenAI itself has acknowledged that models can exhibit biases and that reducing them is an ongoing challenge. The goal is not to claim perfect neutrality but to improve accuracy, fairness, and consistency.

So yes: if you present a specific example—or better, multiple comparable examples—I can analyze them on their merits. If the evidence supports the conclusion that a response was biased, I would say so. If there are alternative explanations, I would explain those as well.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24997 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 5:19 pm to
There was suppose to be an AI without liberal bias . Isn't there one?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139510 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

There was suppose to be an AI without liberal bias . Isn't there one?
Unfortunately, in an innate sense ... no
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
15067 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 5:23 pm to
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ChatGPT


liberal slop
Posted by W2NOMO
Member since Jul 2025
2485 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 5:23 pm to
It’s def bias. It’s more profitable for them to hold the cards and call what they spit out as facts and unbiased reasoning. I assume it’s just like MSM.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
9269 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 5:24 pm to
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Artificial Inteliigence Liberal Bias


Look at all the data centers they're building...and who's building them...this will not turn out well.
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 5:26 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38710 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 5:28 pm to
THey don't even have to code it to be left, if estimates are to be believed, about 40% of "AI knowledge," representing the sources of the LLMS - is Reddit.

Take that for what it is.

I don't think the percentage is that high, but as a top 5 website in visits annually for over a decade, a good chunk of it is.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
71205 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 5:28 pm to
These A.I.s can’t even get historical sports stats and information correct. Trust them at your own peril.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11889 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 5:30 pm to
If it had answered "Yes, citizens should always obey the law" would you have considered that as evidence of its neutrality?
Posted by Prodigal Son
Member since May 2023
1762 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 5:33 pm to
Wait- you think morality is subjective?
Posted by Prodigal Son
Member since May 2023
1762 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 5:35 pm to
Grok
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17935 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 5:38 pm to
They have put up barriers to make it say what they deem acceptable. It used to not be that way.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16640 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 5:43 pm to
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They have put up barriers to make it say what they deem acceptable. It used to not be that


No one trusts the MSM anymore so they're hoping we'll trust AI based on MSM inputs.
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
1229 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 5:44 pm to
There are other bias’s in Ai but I will refrain. What I DO know for a fact, is that it can make my wife’s breasts ridiculously large. (She weighs about 110, so it made her look like Chyna from WWE)

She didn’t approve so I am in timeout.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31650 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 5:45 pm to
Grok isn't.
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