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re: Are the staunch conservatives here Bernie bros
Posted on 10/14/26 at 12:29 pm to kingbob
Posted on 10/14/26 at 12:29 pm to kingbob
The problem is that Trump and Vance have done jack shite to make things more affordable, which they campaigned on. Things are just as bad or even worse than when Dementia Joe was President. They promised to make things more affordable and they've failed, so they fall into one of the following camps:
A.) They're retarded
B.) They're economically illiterate
C.) Their promises were all bullshite
A.) They're retarded
B.) They're economically illiterate
C.) Their promises were all bullshite
Posted on 10/14/26 at 12:29 pm to kingbob
quote:Id agree that Trump walked into office with a one-in-a-generation mandate to make change. About that little has a
Trump and Vance won because they spoke to these issues. The GOPe lost
happened, and Trump is fully owned by the GOPe. The GOPe won. They are getting everything they wanted.
This post was edited on 10/14/26 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 10/14/26 at 12:29 pm to DeBoar
You can find common ground with Bernie Bros - they hate overseas adventurism, bad trade deals, and bailouts. And XiNN. A Bernie rally did the CNN Sucks chant
Posted on 10/14/26 at 12:35 pm to Taxing Authority
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Trump is fully owned by the GOPe. The GOPe won
MAGA is the establishment now. They keep installing RINO candidates as the nominees in races all across the country.
Posted on 10/14/26 at 12:44 pm to kingbob
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This is true. Both movements represent working class people revolting against their party establishment. Both were attacking NAFTA when no one else was. Both were talking about the opioid epidemic when no one else was. Both were talking about student loans when no one else was.
The reality is that some problems are entirely caused by government, and thus require a government action to solve. A government that fails to solve problems will inevitably be replaced by a government that promises to solve those problems regardless of whether that new government actually has any ability or desire to do so. When a status quo isn’t working for enough people, those people will rally to change that status quo. They will support changes that might not work because it at least gives them a chance at something better while the status quo promises only further decline.
Both Bernie and Trump represent demographics who saw that the status quo in 2015 was a slow but inevitable death of the middle class. The only way to stop politicians like Bernie who propose bad solutions to real problems is to support politicians proposing better solutions to those problems. Maga represents, to the right, an opportunity for better.
This post was edited on 10/14/26 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 10/14/26 at 12:50 pm to BBONDS25
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Are tax cuts for the rich (and everyone else) a Bernie idea too?
There is no such thing as an unbalanced budget. If government spending goes up, then the amount of taxes goes up.
Anyone who thinks Trump reduced their taxes suffers from Money Illusion or just pure ignorance on economics in general.
And while the poor are the ones who suffer the most from inflation, it actually takes the most wealth from the rich. Which is why it's a preferred method for....liberals.
Posted on 10/14/26 at 12:50 pm to kingbob
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Lazy and soft? 20 years ago, the average rent was less than 1/3 the average wage. Now, it’s half.
Bernie doesn't have viable solutions either. That people are drawn to his rhetoric seems more the issue, or correctly, more the problem. I have no respect for him
nor his followers. Zoomers arent the only followers either, regardless of their work habits. Look I was piss poor as a young adult apprentice. I know a few percent improvement here and there could make the difference. But I never once thought a socialist hippocrit was a solution.
Yours are excellent points regarding healthcare. It's apparently too huge a problem for Congress to meaningfully address, and it needs to be done NOW. Housing prices though would be quickly remedied with mass deportations which also isn't being addressed. Bernie isn't the answer there either. I'm not suggesting that you're a fan of his. But those who think he has the answers are soft and feel entitled to something more than the Constitution offers.
Posted on 10/14/26 at 12:52 pm to Bestbank Tiger
Exactly. Anti-establishment MAGA identified with some of those things. MAGA is basically GOPe now.
Posted on 10/14/26 at 12:59 pm to Sams Crow
My argument is that if people have a problem, when they head to the voting booth, those people will inevitably vote for the candidate who proposes a bad solution to that problem over a candidate who doesn’t address the problem at all. People will inevitably choose false promises over “quit whining, loser” every day. How do politicians and commentators not see that?
Posted on 10/14/26 at 1:07 pm to DeBoar
Multiple candidates for Florida governor were plants. Bobby Williams one of the others has come out and endorsed Jolly. Bobby and Fish back are the reason we have Donald’s and not Collins . They did there job .
Posted on 10/14/26 at 1:26 pm to DeBoar
Fishback is the male version of mtg.
Posted on 10/14/26 at 2:26 pm to 4quartaBamaball
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Donny literally said at a rally the other night " I could say anything I want and you will eat it up" - He's right, you're living proof
I think he actually said "I could say the stupidest thing ever and you would still cheer".
Not a cult at all.
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