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Posted on 11/26/21 at 5:51 am to TenWheelsForJesus
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The simple fact that many people can't seem to grasp is that the fake jogger would not have been shot if he didn't try to take a weapon away from someone.
He's allowed to defend himself against people committing violent felonies against him.
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If he was dumb enough to do that, then he would have surely attacked them if they were unarmed.
This is a classic case of someone thinking they're using logic but really they're just vomiting letters together and thinking it's profound.
Please explain how the victim of a violent felony would have "surely attacked" those people committing the various violent felonies but-for, you know, the whole "they were committing violent felonies" part? How does this make sense in your head?
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They did not just chase a guy down and shoot him as many of you say. You people are as bad as the media.
1. They illegally chased him down and in doing so committed various violent felonies against him
2. When he tried to defend himself against these aggressions, they shot him and he died.
You may want to revise your comment to something like "When they embarked on their mission of illegal violence, they didn't intend at the outset for that illegal violence to include murder" because they fully intended him harm.
You do realize they were facing up to 20 years on the agg assault charge alone, right? False imprisonment is up to 10 years.
Posted on 11/26/21 at 6:51 am to flyAU
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Are neighborhood watch’s now neutered
Gun sales and ammo sales are up...
Draw your own conclusions
Posted on 11/26/21 at 7:02 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
A simple phone call would have prevented the death of one man and probable life sentences for three. Unless threat of death is imminent, there is no reason for pulling out a gun and then using it.
Posted on 11/26/21 at 7:39 am to Concerned Senior
It should be noted that no (zero) black-on-white murders were committed this month. Only white-on-black. Did you not get the memo?
Posted on 11/26/21 at 8:16 am to flyAU
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With this ruling in Brunswick, are neighborhood watch’s a thing of the past? Not saying the ruling was incorrect, but seems to put a chill on anyone trying to patrol their neighborhood.
Are you serious?
This is what you get, from the said event???? That's you deduction from what happened that day?
Posted on 11/26/21 at 8:38 am to flyAU
They will now turn their attention from criminals to the the unvaccinated (soon to be criminals if Fauci and Biden have their way).
Posted on 11/26/21 at 8:44 am to flyAU
quote:Yeah.
Are neighborhood watch’s now neutered?
If "Neighborhood Watch" entails folks in two vehicles following a guy jogging up and down a neighborhood street, and bumping him with their truck a couple of times. Then trapping him between the two vehicles, going after him with a shotgun, and blasting hime 2-3 times him, I guess they are neutered.
OTOH, if "Neighborhood Watch" encompasses neighbors watching for signs of theft and/or vandalism on each other's property, and reporting suspicious activity to the police, Neighborhood Watches are alive and well.
This post was edited on 11/26/21 at 8:46 am
Posted on 11/26/21 at 8:47 am to TenWheelsForJesus
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They did not just chase a guy down and shoot him as many of you say. You people are as bad as the media.
Posted on 11/26/21 at 9:10 am to OccamsStubble
quote:arbery did nothing wrong?
just don’t try to corner a stranger who hasn’t done anything wrong
Posted on 11/26/21 at 9:23 am to flyAU
NW didn't take a hit at all
The reason Zimmerman walked and those guys didn't is that Zimmerman was following Trayvon Martin and talking to the cops. Martin attacked him and Zimmerman had to defend himself.
He didn't try to corner Martin nor did he initiate a violent confrontation, Martin closed the gap and thus he was clapped
While the guys in Brunswick likely had good intentions, they corralled Arbrey into am ambush thus initiating the violent confrontation themselves
Lesson, just observe and report, you can even follow them and if they attack you just Rittenhouse them but do not initiate or force a violent confrontation (unless you observe a forcible felony)
The reason Zimmerman walked and those guys didn't is that Zimmerman was following Trayvon Martin and talking to the cops. Martin attacked him and Zimmerman had to defend himself.
He didn't try to corner Martin nor did he initiate a violent confrontation, Martin closed the gap and thus he was clapped
While the guys in Brunswick likely had good intentions, they corralled Arbrey into am ambush thus initiating the violent confrontation themselves
Lesson, just observe and report, you can even follow them and if they attack you just Rittenhouse them but do not initiate or force a violent confrontation (unless you observe a forcible felony)
Posted on 11/26/21 at 10:50 am to Wally Sparks
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Except, in this case, the morons acted on mere suspicion that Arbery committed a crime against someone else’s property.
It takes a village....(wait)...where'd I pick that up? Hindsight. They should've let Arbery go. But what is done....is done. Having said that, crime will continue to explode. Police will continue to struggle to respond. Response times will get longer and longer. Pressure will grow to expand police presence, resulting in the expansion of the Police State.
My concern? As long as the local jurisdictions (cities, states) have control over their police I'm okay. But when I hear talk of federal control of local police, then I'm scared. You should be too. And IMO the federalization of local police is made easier by growth in police.
It's called attempting to respond during the collapse of a culture. A collapse that was brought on by widespread abandonment of traditional moral values. Or in other words, the diabolical effects of moral relativism. You can't legislate morality, and you can't hire enough police to prevent people from brutally murdering people watching a Christmas parade. It must come from the heart.
Change the human heart for good, and you have a chance to prevent violence. We're not doing a very good job of that right now.
A good start. Make a statement in favor of good and the sanctity of human life. Stop killing innocent babies in the womb.
This post was edited on 11/26/21 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 11/26/21 at 3:31 pm to JColtF
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The reason Zimmerman walked and those guys didn't is that Zimmerman was following Trayvon Martin and talking to the cops. Martin attacked him and Zimmerman had to defend himself.
I'm more familiar with the Zimmerman-Martin case than AA's (via the Trayvon Hoax work of Joel Gilbert), but from Trayvon's perspective he was being stalked by Zimmerman, would have had no knowledge of Zimmerman's motives, and acted to defend himself.
But if these cases are different it's not for this reason.
Posted on 11/26/21 at 4:36 pm to AlwysATgr
As Zimmerman left his house for Target he noticed a man standing in the middle of his neighbor's lawn staring at the front of the house in the rain. He parked his car and observed, calling the police. Trayvon then walked up and stood in front of Zimmerman's car staring at him briefly then turned around and took off running. This is described in the police dispatch recording. Zimmerman followed in that direction to see where Trayvon went in order to inform the police but he did not close the distance to Trayvon.
After losing sight of Trayvon Zimmerman slowly started walking back to his car.
Trayvon reached is father's mistress's house where he was staying with the mistress's son while father and mistress stayed in a hotel that night. He told the girl on the phone he reached 'home'.
His bio mom wanted nothing to do with him since toddler age (until after his death), his step mom who raised him now was being divorced/cheated on by his dad. And he was at the third woman's house because he was kicked out of his school. Imagine the anger after all this when Zimmerman ruined his burglary plans. Trayvon then left 'his house' and went back out to find and attack Zimmerman.
The father came home the next morning, noticed Trayvon missing, and called the police under his assumption that Trayvon probably had been arrested and was in Jail.
Trayvon likely attacked Zimmerman for being a 'snitch'. Not a stalker.
After losing sight of Trayvon Zimmerman slowly started walking back to his car.
Trayvon reached is father's mistress's house where he was staying with the mistress's son while father and mistress stayed in a hotel that night. He told the girl on the phone he reached 'home'.
His bio mom wanted nothing to do with him since toddler age (until after his death), his step mom who raised him now was being divorced/cheated on by his dad. And he was at the third woman's house because he was kicked out of his school. Imagine the anger after all this when Zimmerman ruined his burglary plans. Trayvon then left 'his house' and went back out to find and attack Zimmerman.
The father came home the next morning, noticed Trayvon missing, and called the police under his assumption that Trayvon probably had been arrested and was in Jail.
Trayvon likely attacked Zimmerman for being a 'snitch'. Not a stalker.
Posted on 11/26/21 at 5:42 pm to Zarkinletch416
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They should've let Arbery go
If someone tries to take your weapon and you shoot them, you go to jail for life.
Thats what I got out of this whole thing.
Posted on 11/26/21 at 6:35 pm to blueboxer1119
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If someone tries to take your weapon when you try to kidnap them and you shoot them, you go to jail for life.
FIFY
Posted on 11/26/21 at 9:37 pm to flyAU
I’m thinking of a line from “Dexter:”
“It’s watch and report, assholes, not watch and chase.”
“It’s watch and report, assholes, not watch and chase.”
Posted on 11/27/21 at 5:47 am to flyAU
Neighborhood WATCH. Watch and report. You’re not law enforcement and have no authority to hold someone against their will. If you go chasing someone with a gun, you’re an idiot.
Posted on 11/27/21 at 6:09 am to ApexTiger
quote:Only as a means of self-defense if things get ugly. Have a dash cam and phone cam and call the police. You will need evidence if things do go down.
Gun sales and ammo sales are up...
Draw your own conclusions
Posted on 11/27/21 at 6:13 am to SlowFlowPro
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Please explain how the victim of a violent felony would have "surely attacked" those people committing the various violent felonies but-for, you know, the whole "they were committing violent felonies" part?
I don’t know the answer but did you use this exact quote for Rittenhouse? If so, kudos. If not please explain the hypocrisy
Thanks
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