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re: Are most of you actually Pro-Life?
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:22 am to beerJeep
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:22 am to beerJeep
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Cute false equivalency.
Cute dodge.
Why can none of you pro-choice people answer that honestly?
Who are you to draw the line?
Why do you draw that line?
Survivability and development? A one year old doesn't stand a chance on its own.
Why are you OK with killing based on in or out the womb?
It's the mothers choice right?
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Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:23 am to TigrrrDad
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My doctorate says otherwise.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:23 am to SSpaniel
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I can see the difference.
Then why make such false equivalencies? A fetus is not viable outside of the mothers womb. A 1 year old is.
Sterilization would end the debate though, as they would be unable to make a fetus to begin with.
As you can see here, LINK the birthrate of those in poverty is MUCH higher than those not in poverty. And since we know poverty is more oft than not. Generational, what does that do over time?
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The rate was 67.17 births per 1,000 women in households with an income of under 10,000 U.S. dollars. This is nearly 57 percent more births than that of households earning 200,000 dollars or more.
In no way shape or form is this okay, or is this viable long term. The birthrate of those in poverty MUST be lowered. Sterilization is something that must be looked at.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:25 am to beerJeep
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fetus is not viable outside of the mothers womb. A 1 year old is.
In what reality could a 1 year old survive with no help?
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:25 am to TigrrrDad
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look your kid in the eye and ask yourself
Did your "doctorate" tell you that?
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:25 am to Collegedropout
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still waitin on an answer myself
Try this scenario and see if it's not BS. Woman is pregnant, wants to have an abortion but the father says no, father tells woman I will take the child and the woman has no further obligations after she gives birth, woman says no and the man has no legal recourse.
Same woman is pregnant by different man, tells father of child and he says to get and abortion, woman says no and the father is financially responsible for the child with no legal recourse.
The bottom line is the law screws the man and the woman gets to play God.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:27 am to Breesus
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In what reality could a 1 year old survive with no help?
None, but a one-year-old can certainly survive for a period of time without being attched to a human being.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:28 am to coondaddy21
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IMO, they are both Murder but if our government doesn't view one as illegal, why should it view the other as legal?
Asked and answered numberous times in numerous formats.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:29 am to Breesus
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Cute dodge. Why can none of you pro-choice people answer that honestly? Who are you to draw the line? Why do you draw that line? Survivability and development? A one year old doesn't stand a chance on its own. Why are you OK with killing based on in or out the womb? It's the mothers choice right?
I draw the line at when the baby becomes viable. When the baby can breath on its own, can eat/drink/shite. If that point is 3 months into the pregnancy, so be it. 6? Cool. The day before birth? Fine.
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Why are you OK with killing based on in or out the womb?
Because I see nothing but a waste of tax payers money when I see babies born to those in poverty. I'd rather them not have the kid than have it.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:29 am to SpyBoy
Nope. I wouldn't abort a kid, but I don't think another person getting an abortion reflects on me. It also cuts down on the amount of kids with parents that don't give a shite.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:29 am to beerJeep
Why is it wrong for poor people to have kids? It's not a poverty issue but a welfare issue. If someone wants to trade material comfort for a large family, who are we to judge them for that? The issue as I see it is that the government is subsidizing their lifestyles which allows them to continue to have kids without as great of a sacrifice to their own comfort. I say, remove the subsidies and let those who want to remain poor with lots of kids have as many as they can feed and clothe.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:29 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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None, but a one-year-old can certainly survive for a period of time without being attched to a human being.
That's where you draw the line for abortions?
Chance if Survivability without an umbilical chord?
Why do you get to decide at what point the woman can terminate her child? What gives you that right?
This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 11:33 am
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:30 am to beerJeep
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voluntary" in a carrot on the stick way.
I'm down with that
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:30 am to Breesus
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In what reality could a 1 year old survive with no help?
You're so dense. It's viable in it can breath on its own. It can eat. It can shite. It can drink. It can make noises.
A fetus can do none of that.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:31 am to beerJeep
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Because I see nothing but a waste of tax payers money when I see babies born to those in poverty. I'd rather them not have the kid than have it.
Why not just kill people in poverty. That would save a shite load of money.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:32 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Those images don't contribute to my determination one way or the other.
That's peachy because they weren't meant to contribute to your determination.
Just in case any fools didn't know what tiny humans at that stage of development...now they know.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:32 am to beerJeep
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You're so dense. It's viable in it can breath on its own. It can eat. It can shite. It can drink. It can make noises.
A fetus can do none of that.
Define a fetus. Because after a certain point an unborn kid can do plenty of those things.
And why am I dense? You're the one choosing at what point you can and cannot end a child's life. I'm trying to figure out why you chose that point.
Should everyone who wants an abortion be forced to try and see if the kid can live with medical care as a premature birth?
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:33 am to Breesus
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Survivability and development? A one year old doesn't stand a chance on its own.
This argument is trash. I forgot when literally anybody but the mother could care for a young fetus, yet I constantly see grandparents, sitters, and various other people taking care of 1 year old children.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:33 am to FooManChoo
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Why is it wrong for poor people to have kids?
If they live within their means and are not on govt assistance, go ahead and pop out 10 kids. My issue stems only to those who are on welfare and work min wage popping out multiple kids they can't afford. It's a drain on society and it takes resources and time away from kids who have a far better chance in life.
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say, remove the subsidies and let those who want to remain poor with lots of kids have as many as they can feed and clothe.
I agree 100%.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:34 am to Breesus
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Why not just kill people in poverty. That would save a shite load of money.
Deal.
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