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re: Are most of you actually Pro-Life?
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:05 am to McLemore
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:05 am to McLemore
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This is useless. It is like giving a crackhead $10 and telling him he can't use it for crack, only food. Even if he used it for food, he has saved $10 for crack.
If they provided annual reports showing only private donations to support their abortion operations, I'm ok with that bc I don't have any skin in the game. That's why I said it should be offered completely separately from their other services perhaps including facilities.
I'm perfectly good with taxpayer funding going to provide birth control and health services they offer.
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Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:11 am to roadGator
Those images don't contribute to my determination one way or the other. Sorry bout it.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:13 am to SpyBoy
I think abortion is murder, but I don't think the govt should have the authority to ban someone from doing what they want with their body.
In a similar sense I am against gay marriage, but I don't think the govt should have the right to dictate what happens between consenting adults in a bedroom.
In a similar sense I am against gay marriage, but I don't think the govt should have the right to dictate what happens between consenting adults in a bedroom.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:14 am to MeatCleaverWeaver
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Anyone who's ever brought home the video from that first 16 week ultrasound knows it's murder, too ....or should know.
We heard the heartbeat at 8 weeks. At 15 weeks, we saw baby sucking his thumb in the womb. I don't understand how any thinking person can not be pro-life
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:16 am to SpyBoy
Pro-life, pro-"it ain't none of my business", pro-childcare and medical access, and pro-good schools to give kids a chance.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:17 am to Tiguar
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Prolife morally.
Prochoice legally
Not trolling, but explain how child abuse should be illegal then. If babies are extensions of women's bodies... It's a slippery slope imo.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:18 am to LSUGrrrl
I have no idea what happened w this post. I just saw the weird paste/quote. Sry. Fixed.
My analogy remains. A penny they save on birth control is a penny they earn for abortions. Doesn't matter how separate their accounting is.
This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 11:00 am
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:20 am to 4cubbies
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Not trolling, but explain how child abuse should be illegal then.
tha frick?
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If babies are extensions of women's bodies..
THA frick?
I get that the Pro-Life "side" says "an embryo IS a BABY". But, that is NOT how it stands LEGALLY right now.
soooo.....silliness
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:21 am to McLemore
Uh... something went drastically wrong with your copy/paste. At least I hope it did.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:25 am to McLemore
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My analogy remains. A penny they save on birth control is a penny they earn for abortions. Doesn't matter how separate their accounting is.
Only if their funding is from 1 pot. Fact is, abortion is legal right now. If they operate 2 separate facilities offering 2 separate services, I have no control over what they do with private donations to run 1 of those.
Would you feel better if they had to form a completely superset entity to offer abortions only? That would do no different, really.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:28 am to 4cubbies
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Not trolling, but explain how child abuse should be illegal then. If babies are extensions of women's bodies... It's a slippery slope imo.
Once the child is born they have rights. This really has nothing to do with the abortion debate because everyone agrees that a live human existing outside the mother's womb has the right to life.
The key debate is when that life becomes a human and should be protected. Having heard a baby's heartbeat in the womb, that is the point of humanity for me.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:28 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:Yeah man. Abortion is legal under the penumbras of random amendments. So it's a privacy thing because the baby grows in a woman's body. I don't get why you're so shocked.
THA frick?
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:29 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:I always chuckle a little bit when people defend abortion by saying "it's legal". That's the point. Pro-lifers are trying to make it illegal.
I get that the Pro-Life "side" says "an embryo IS a BABY". But, that is NOT how it stands LEGALLY right now.
Do you think that once a law is put in place, it should be final and no one should challenge it ever going forward? If so, do you feel that way about marijuana being legalized?
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:32 am to SpyBoy
There should be absolutely 0 tax dollars going towards abortion/planned parenthood.
Other than that, abortion I believe should be legal but highly frowned upon. The fact that people celebrate abortions is sickening
Other than that, abortion I believe should be legal but highly frowned upon. The fact that people celebrate abortions is sickening
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:33 am to FooManChoo
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I always chuckle a little bit when people defend abortion by saying "it's legal".
I've not "defended" it at all.
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Pro-lifers are trying to make it illegal.
yep
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Do you think that once a law is put in place, it should be final and no one should challenge it ever going forward?
Of course not.
However, to say 'if you can get an abortion, then you can ABUSE a "baby"'...is silliness.
One may, CURRENTLY, walk into an abortion clinic with a 1 year old on her hip, have a fetus aborted...no issue.....walk out on the sidewalk and beat the 1 y/o and GET ARRESTED.
Those are facts.
That is all I've said.
Why do folks expand what is said and then argue the NEW point?
reductio ad absurdum!
This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 9:34 am
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:33 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
100 per cent pro choice
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:41 am to SpyBoy
I'm pro life but I'm curious about a certain legal aspect of murder. If killing a baby in the wound of a pregnant woman who chooses to have an abortion isn't illegal, then why would someone be charged with murdering that same fetus if the mother died with the baby inside or if an event caused the baby to die but not the mother?
For example, an accident by a drunk driver or an intentional homicide, where a pregnant woman is shot and killed.
IMO, they are both Murder but if our government doesn't view one as illegal, why should it view the other as legal?
For example, an accident by a drunk driver or an intentional homicide, where a pregnant woman is shot and killed.
IMO, they are both Murder but if our government doesn't view one as illegal, why should it view the other as legal?
This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 9:43 am
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:56 am to SpyBoy
Am Pro-Life for a variety of reasons one of which is, imv, it speaks to the quality and veracity of a society's moral compass. Disregard for life does not tend to promote a healthy, honoring exchange of human interaction. This is a perception as I cannot point to any study which supports.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:59 am to coondaddy21
still waitin on an answer myself
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:05 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
I was making a statement based on the quoted text. Whether that applies to you directly is beside the point. If you aren't defending abortion or aren't using "it's legal" to defend it, then great. Many do, though, and I was address that.
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