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re: Are most of you actually Pro-Life?
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:41 am to chadau79
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:41 am to chadau79
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Can you imagine what demographics would be if abortion were illegal all these years?
I know where you're going with that but honestly, it's not as cut and dried as you might think.
You can't assume that in the absence of abortion, behavior would have remained the same.
I'm not pointing that as a pro or anti stance.
Merely pointing out that this is a common mistake when discussing almost any issue. IE, the idea that if you look at a human society that removal of a particular stimulus will result in the exact same society, minus the stimulus.
That's not how humans typically work.
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Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:42 am to ShortyRob
Look at you, continuing to "talk past" me. BamaAtl "tried" the same thing.
If you want to ignore me, then do it. I'll be completely fine never conversing with you again. It's weird for you to pretend that you're doing it, though, when you're so wrapped around the axles on this.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:42 am to beerJeep
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Don't look at them as human then. They're parasites and nothing more
shite dude...this is all sorts of evil. Furthermore, you're letting this evil thought process make you, self admittedly, completely skew reality along with it.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:43 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Look at you, continuing to "talk past" me. BamaAtl "tried" the same thing.
Keep trying
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:44 am to ShortyRob
It is a response to people saying, "I'm pro-life personally but pro-choice legally." That is an inane response to the OP. The term "pro-life" doesn't mean, "I am really disgusted by abortion." I mean, you can redefine it to mean that. Fine. But the meaning attached to it politically, socially, historically, religiously, culturally, etc, is that you believe it should be illegal.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:45 am to McLemore
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It is a response to people saying, "I'm pro-life personally but pro-choice legally." That is an inane response to the OP. The term "pro-life" doesn't mean, "I am really disgusted by abortion."
Ah. OK. Now I'm tracking and, I agree.
I mean, I'm sure that for some people, that is the correct translation but no, certainly not all.
Guess a lot of people inherently want to fence sit on issues that are highly emotional.
Not my thing.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:49 am to jpbTiger
Aren't less than 1% of all abortions done due to it being life threatening? Rape is a tough one I must say. Is there a drug administered to prevent fertilization when someone is raped and taken to the hospital? I personally dont agree with abortion nor do I feel like the government should fund it.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:50 am to Pinecone Repair
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In pro-life but I don't think abortion should be illegal.
well, then you are not pro life...
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:51 am to SpyBoy
I am vehemently anti abortion.
However, I am pro contraceptives, pro pulling out, pro free contraception, pro sex education, and pro "don't have kids early or it will ruin your life" education. I believe that though this should be the responsibility of parents / individuals and not a public service, I am willing to accept tax money flowing into preventing pregnancies rather than murdering children.
However, I am pro contraceptives, pro pulling out, pro free contraception, pro sex education, and pro "don't have kids early or it will ruin your life" education. I believe that though this should be the responsibility of parents / individuals and not a public service, I am willing to accept tax money flowing into preventing pregnancies rather than murdering children.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:54 am to dbeck
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Abortion is tragic but not as tragic as being born and then neglected or abused.
wrong.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:55 am to SpyBoy
I am not a lib but I am pro choice.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:55 am to Rebel
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I think abortion is immoral. But the last thing I would ever want is the government to regulate morality.
so no laws for murder than?
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:58 am to SpyBoy
It is Murder!
It is Wrong!
There is no Recovery from it !
It is Wrong!
There is no Recovery from it !
Posted on 6/23/17 at 7:59 am to Collegedropout
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well, then you are not pro life...
Wow. It's like you're in my head or something.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:01 am to NC_Tigah
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If a pregnant woman on her way to get an abortion gets shot in the abdomen, killing her fetus, how can the assailant be charged with murder?
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:01 am to ShoeBang
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I am vehemently anti abortion.
However, I am pro contraceptives, pro pulling out, pro free contraception, pro sex education, and pro "don't have kids early or it will ruin your life" education. I believe that though this should be the responsibility of parents / individuals and not a public service, I am willing to accept tax money flowing into preventing pregnancies rather than murdering children.
This. Every bit of this.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:02 am to zachary77
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Take your true label of Progressive or Statist.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:02 am to ShortyRob
Yeah and I think a more honest response might be, "I am pro choice I would prefer most abortions to be illegal, but all evidence points to more and worse abortions if that were the case." That's the thrust or what many are saying.
I might turn the table on OP and say, if we lived in a more libertarian society then I'd be pro-choice. But cherry-picking one area of liberty and trying to inject it into a nanny-state is scary and dangerous.
I might turn the table on OP and say, if we lived in a more libertarian society then I'd be pro-choice. But cherry-picking one area of liberty and trying to inject it into a nanny-state is scary and dangerous.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:03 am to AU66
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Remember the Germans who lived next to the concentration camps but said " we didn't know" after the war,anyone who is for abortion is no better.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:04 am to SpyBoy
here is abortion summarized
between the points of insemination and birth, that "bundle of cells" becomes a life. before this point, it's ok. after this point, it's murder. the whole "abortion" debate is simply a debate about when that point is.
as science keeps developing, that point is likely moving earlier and earlier. i think some babies around 20-25 weeks have been saved
between the points of insemination and birth, that "bundle of cells" becomes a life. before this point, it's ok. after this point, it's murder. the whole "abortion" debate is simply a debate about when that point is.
as science keeps developing, that point is likely moving earlier and earlier. i think some babies around 20-25 weeks have been saved
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