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re: Are most of you actually Pro-Life?
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:05 am to SpyBoy
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:05 am to SpyBoy
I'm willing to accept abortion prior to the point that it becomes murder. At some point that lump of cells becomes a person that should be afforded the same civil rights as any other person. When that occurs is really where the debate should be focused.
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Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:05 am to crazycubes
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After that they couldn't care less what happens to that child.
because we dont believe in forced wealth redistribution?
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:09 am to Pinecone Repair
dont get upset man, we can still be buddies. judging by your profile pic we agree on 99% of the issues.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:17 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Illustrative purposes only. The viewer should refer to their own moral values when determining if slicing up tiny humans is acceptable or not.
This is a no judgement zone.
This is a no judgement zone.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:20 am to Collegedropout
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dont get upset man, we can still be buddies. judging by your profile pic we agree on 99% of the issues.
I'm not a man.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:23 am to Tiguar
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Prolife morally. Prochoice legally with the caveat I want to reduce federal funding for such endeavors. It shouldn't be illegal but my money shouldn't go towards it.
Pretty much agree with this. I would add that people who can't afford to raise children without government assistance shouldn't conceive in the first place.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:23 am to SlowFlowPro
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as science keeps developing, that point is likely moving earlier and earlier. i think some babies around 20-25 weeks have been saved
Yeah if we aren't going to say it's when unique genetic material is created then the next stop is viability. And then is it case-by-case, or some average? The next stop is arbitrary, then birth, then whatever age Debbie Wasserman Schultz decides.
As evidenced by this thread though, a lot of people are unprincipled pragmatists when it comes to this issue. What would it really look like these days if it were illegal? It's kind of hard to fathom.
This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 8:24 am
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:25 am to GurleyGirl
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Pretty much agree with this. I would add that people who can't afford to raise children without government assistance shouldn't conceive in the first place.
Bananas Foster.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:25 am to SpyBoy
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Inspired by the Kennedy rumor.
Generally curious. I'm one of the few liberals that peruses this board, though I rarely post because most threads are "can you libs honestly answer this..." followed by mostly ad hominem attacks on how we are all losers, weak, etc.
This board has always been hard right, but tends to incorporate a lot of libertarian thought. Just curious if that means you all think abortion should be illegal.
Reason I ask is most of you also seems generally sour on the war on drugs and/or other federal level criminal justice endeavors. I feel like many of you even would argue for a highly decriminalized drug policy due to its being ineffective. Chances are criminalizing abortion would be similarly challenging.
Are any of you for making abortion legal due to political reasons, or is it all moral/religious?
I really don't care about abortion. Sometimes I think I'm the only one.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:28 am to SpyBoy
I'll worry about abortions when we have a shortage of people. Until then I think we should do everything possible to make available every form of contraception to all Americans.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:29 am to SpyBoy
I favor life over death. Yes.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:36 am to SpyBoy
Morally, I am pro-life.
Legally, I believe there should be some limited exceptions to preserve the life of the mother if it were no longer legal.
There should be absolutely zero tax payer funding to subsidize abortion since so many tax payers are against it. Providers, such as Planned Parenthood, who provide abortions along with other services should have to keep completely separate records, books, maybe even facilities for the abortion portion of their services to ensure no taxpayer money funded abortion in any way.
Legally, I believe there should be some limited exceptions to preserve the life of the mother if it were no longer legal.
There should be absolutely zero tax payer funding to subsidize abortion since so many tax payers are against it. Providers, such as Planned Parenthood, who provide abortions along with other services should have to keep completely separate records, books, maybe even facilities for the abortion portion of their services to ensure no taxpayer money funded abortion in any way.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:39 am to SpyBoy
Murdering babies is wrong
If a person cannot see that simple truth then something evil is blinding his or her vision
If a person cannot see that simple truth then something evil is blinding his or her vision
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:45 am to SpyBoy
I am against abortion. Its murder....and Im an athiest
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:47 am to SpyBoy
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Pro-Life
For those who havent been given a chance to make their first mistake yet.
Dont mind death penalty for those with a career of crimes that have resulted in innocent lives lost.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:48 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:wow man, that was really touching.
I am a conservative. When I look at people I see their souls and the light that exists within them.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:50 am to LSUGrrrl
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Providers, such as Planned Parenthood, who provide abortions along with other services should have to keep completely separate records, books, maybe even facilities for the abortion portion of their services to ensure no taxpayer money funded abortion in any way.
This is useless. It is like giving a crackhead $10 and telling him he can't use it for crack, only food. Even if he used it for food, he has saved $10 for crack.
This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 8:51 am
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:52 am to jpbTiger
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That said, I can see it as justified in certain circumstances (rape chiefly among them along with situations where the mother's life is in danger), and thus don't think there should be a blanket prohibition on it.
You can't believe it's murder and think this is ok. Every child conceived is a child of God. Giving up this child for adoption should be the alternative choice.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:59 am to reo45
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Emotionally there is something about abortion that truly disturbs me to no end. Not anger, but sadness and the spirit of quitting. I will never, ever understand the thought process of a woman wishing to end the life of their child in development. It makes my stomach turn and makes me ill. Maybe it is all the whistleblowers that have come out with images and other means of footage about what goes on, I don't know. My dad is pro-abortion along with my sister.. As the other poster said, it is murder. We already have laws on the books for it. It seems the only argument that can be rendered is that the child isn't human yet until it is born. That is about all I can come up with. Seems doctors are finding out more and more how much bullshitee that truly is too. Or, that they have no soul until it breathes outside the mothers womb. I say side on the side of life, but that is me.
I'm not going to link a research document but there is tremendous remorse from many women who have abortions of convenience. The info is out there if you care to dig it up.
I believe the remorse women feel over aborting children is lessening when compared to 30-40 years ago, sadly it's due to the searing of the collective consciousness of modern society.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:03 am to ShortyRob
Look at you, continuing to "talk past" me. BamaAtl "tried" the same thing.
If you want to ignore me, then do it. I'll be completely fine never conversing with you again. It's weird for you to pretend that you're doing it, though, when you're so wrapped around the axles on this.
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