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re: Ardoin +266,000 votes/ Edwards +40,000
Posted on 11/18/19 at 4:01 pm to Steadyhands
Posted on 11/18/19 at 4:01 pm to Steadyhands
quote:Let’s be realistic: JBE is no BHO/HillDog. He’s a blue dog Democrat who could easily defect from Dem to Repub without any major policy shifts. In fact, I heard someone this AM report that GEOTUS actually recruited JBE to defect before the election. Not sure I believe that, but JBE is still WAY conservative in a party that’s tilting towards socialism.
And that's entirely believable, up until you see who the other candidate is.
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 4:03 pm to cgrand
His mistake was thinking he could just spend his way in and just overwhelm with dollars.
Look, Edwards spent a lot of money but he spent it right and he placed his face in front of cameras at every available opportunity . He had a record. You can debate if it was a good record but it was a record so you could spin it.
No one really knew Eddie Rispone until his commercials came out...ditto for Abraham. Neither had a real legislative record. In Eddie's case few knew what he did to make his money.
Look, Edwards spent a lot of money but he spent it right and he placed his face in front of cameras at every available opportunity . He had a record. You can debate if it was a good record but it was a record so you could spin it.
No one really knew Eddie Rispone until his commercials came out...ditto for Abraham. Neither had a real legislative record. In Eddie's case few knew what he did to make his money.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 4:04 pm to KiwiHead
I assume by privilege you mean wealth. A friend of mine knows both families. She says neither one came from families of 'privilege'.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 4:29 pm to Covingtontiger77
LA policies suck as does the voting base there. Left in 2006 after 35 years as a resident and glad I did so.
Too many lazy and low productivity state employees in addition to wasteful spending on redundant higher educational facilities are part of the problem in my experience.
Too many lazy and low productivity state employees in addition to wasteful spending on redundant higher educational facilities are part of the problem in my experience.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 4:32 pm to LSU7096
Universities in LA are actually one of the most efficent areas of this state, thanks to Jindal while public schools are one of the least efficient (IMO). They have received standstill budgets, but have never been forced to do with less.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 4:50 pm to Covingtontiger77
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All I can figure is it’s old whites that are clinging to blue dog democrat thinking and who think that the 2019 Dem party still represents them.
Eddie’s attacks (copied verbatim from GumboPac) on Ralph were nothing more than an in-kind contribution to GumboPac - which allowed GumboPac to attack Eddie even more.
So, as Eddie attacked Ralph, Eddie’s unfavorables kept going up especially among Suburban Woman. By the Primary, Eddie’s unfavorables were so high his defeat was baked in.
They trotted out Dena and ISC employees to soften his image but it was too little, too late.
In summary, Eddie was a political amateur and his campaign staff were morons.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 4:52 pm to NikolaiJakov
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It just tells me Rispone was the wrong candidate.
So you're telling me in two election cycles the LAGOP could not dig up anyone that can beat a crappy arse candidate like Edwards? WTF are they doing over there? I mean Vitter and now Rispone? Scalise needs to get involved as does John Kennedy.... we can't allow this to keep happening.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 5:16 pm to back9Tiger
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Scalise needs to get involved as does John Kennedy.... we can't allow this to keep happening.
I know Scalise is pretty popular due to the shooting and all but hasn't he been one of the biggest Rinos in the congress for years?
Posted on 11/18/19 at 5:55 pm to Covingtontiger77
Rispone's campaign team was worse than Col. Madness' campaign team. Thus worst ever in the history of Louisiana.
Every actual sho nuff insider I know has been saying this for months, including Trump's own people
Every actual sho nuff insider I know has been saying this for months, including Trump's own people
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:03 pm to Covingtontiger77
Rispone was an average candidate. If you start researching what his campaign/advisors did and didn't do it becomes clear why he lost. He was more than capable of winning.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:42 pm to SaintsnTigers1
Edward's father was a sheriff as was his grandfather and his dad also was in EWE's operation. He came from privilege maybe not ridiculous wealth but Eddie came from very modest means
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:16 pm to dragginass
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If you start researching what his campaign/advisors did and didn't do it becomes clear why he lost.
Indeed.
They were 20 something carpetbaggers that had zero desire to learn about Louisiana politics and zero respect and desire for help from Louisiana political professionals that know how win races and won this past Saturday night.
They were full of arrogant hubris that didn't give one shite whether Rispone won or not and they robbed him blind.
They should be blackballed from working in GOP politics again lest some other poor conservative get robbed blind too.
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He was more than capable of winning.
Indeed.
The fact they came within two points of winning illustrates that.
The votes were there for Rispone to get with a competent campaign that knows what they're doing and that didn't happen.
Rispone had the potential to be a great candidate people could be excited about and those hack advisors made him go down the Mini Trump bullshite instead of playing up a real winner of a story in his rags to riches life story and how Louisiana can do that too.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:32 pm to TigerChief10
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Abraham didn't have enough support to make the runoff. You really think he could've won it?
Being able to win the diehard vote of your own party in a primary is very different than winning a general election no matter where you live.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:38 pm to Sentrius
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Rispone had the potential to be a great candidate people could be excited about and those hack advisors made him go down the Mini Trump bullshite instead of playing up a real winner of a story in his rags to riches life story and how Louisiana can do that too.
I have relatives in CCLA that know Rispone well and to a person they were dumbfounded that mini-Trump was his strategy. When that first campaign ad aired all of them were incredulous...they felt that came out of nowhere
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:43 pm to cgrand
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I have relatives in CCLA that know Rispone well and to a person they were dumbfounded that mini-Trump was his strategy. When that first campaign ad aired all of them were incredulous...they felt that came out of nowhere
If political malpractice was something you could sue over, Rispone would have a great case against his carpetbagger consultants.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:43 pm to cgrand
St. Tammany 59.9-40.1 Rispone
Rispone only carried St. Tammany Parish, another large suburban NOLA area, 59-41. David Vitter took it 61-39 four years ago, and Mary Landrieu never broke 37% during any of her Senate runs.
Rispone clearly didn't resonate with people in the greater New Orleans area. Edwards got 57% in Lakeview, slightly down from his 58% in the primary, a huge swing from his 3% loss there in 2015.
Rispone only carried St. Tammany Parish, another large suburban NOLA area, 59-41. David Vitter took it 61-39 four years ago, and Mary Landrieu never broke 37% during any of her Senate runs.
Rispone clearly didn't resonate with people in the greater New Orleans area. Edwards got 57% in Lakeview, slightly down from his 58% in the primary, a huge swing from his 3% loss there in 2015.
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:51 pm to MrLSU
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Rispone only carried St. Tammany Parish, another large suburban NOLA area, 59-41. David Vitter took it 61-39 four years ago, and Mary Landrieu never broke 37% during any of her Senate runs.
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Rispone clearly didn't resonate with people in the greater New Orleans area. Edwards got 57% in Lakeview, slightly down from his 58% in the primary, a huge swing from his 3% loss there in 2015.
Like I said in another thread. You have to contest everything and do not let your opponent have unfettered access to a single locale.
Doesn't matter how small of a percentage of the vote you get as that may end up being the difference in a close, dead heat election.
Rispone let the democrats go absolutely ape shite there and did not contest them all and that was a mistake.
If Rispone could manage to get Orleans Parish to 80-83% Edwards and EBR Parish to like 53-58% Edwards, very good chance Rispone would be Governor-Elect and holding pressers about his transition this morning.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:09 pm to MrLSU
Wow, more proof of how awesome Lakeview was before Katrina.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:32 pm to Covingtontiger77
Based on the signs the people on the sidewalks were holding on Saturday I'd say there were a lot of people that only voted for governor.
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