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re: Ardoin +266,000 votes/ Edwards +40,000
Posted on 11/18/19 at 2:15 pm to Covingtontiger77
Posted on 11/18/19 at 2:15 pm to Covingtontiger77
You guys claimed he was a horrible candidate.
This is what happens when you put a super shite candidate against a shite candidate. People feel safer with shite, rather than super shitty.
This is what happens when you put a super shite candidate against a shite candidate. People feel safer with shite, rather than super shitty.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 2:26 pm to SeeeeK
Obama and Hillary won 80% of Orleans Parish in 2008 and 2016. JBE won 90% of Orleans Parish in 2019.
Hillary Clinton won 52% of EBR Parish in 2016. JBE got 66% of EBR Parish in 2019.
Rispone let the democrats go absolutely ape shite there and did not contest them all no matter how small a percentage he may have gotten.
But the thing is that that those small percentages matter and make a difference in the end and if Rispone could manage to get Orleans Parish to 80-83% Edwards and EBR Parish to like 53-58% Edwards, very good chance Rispone would be Governor-Elect and holding pressers about his transition this morning.
Hillary Clinton won 52% of EBR Parish in 2016. JBE got 66% of EBR Parish in 2019.
Rispone let the democrats go absolutely ape shite there and did not contest them all no matter how small a percentage he may have gotten.
But the thing is that that those small percentages matter and make a difference in the end and if Rispone could manage to get Orleans Parish to 80-83% Edwards and EBR Parish to like 53-58% Edwards, very good chance Rispone would be Governor-Elect and holding pressers about his transition this morning.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 2:28 pm to crewdepoo
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Educated republicans saw through phony rispone
Yes educated republicans support having the worst economy in the United States of America and filing lawsuits against the only industry we have left.......that's fricking rich
Posted on 11/18/19 at 2:29 pm to iron banks
Edwards would best Abraham by 7 points
Posted on 11/18/19 at 2:31 pm to ragincajun03
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Posted this in the other thread. I believe this, and push cards and poor urban areas only showing the Gov’s race, as being the main culprits.
The culprit is that the GOP put up a shitty candidate who thought he could win only be appeasing the lowest common denominator of GOP voters and that would be enough to win.
A candidate has to to stand for something and the only thing Rispone stood for was nothing. The LA GOP was no better than the Democrats who automatically assumed that white females & males would vote for Rispone at a 90% clip.
You have to earn the educated voters vote it doesn't come because you have an R next to your name. This is what the braintrust missed and why Rispone lost.
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 11/18/19 at 2:38 pm to cgrand
Edward's is not some whacked out liberal progressive. He is an opportunist out for himself. Rispone was not pure either. I had run into Republicans who were concerned that Eddie would not be his own man and that the traffic on Highland near CCOL was going to get unusually heavy while Eddie was staying at the Governor's Mansion downtown. So heavy that Cajun Constructors might have to build a parking garage
Posted on 11/18/19 at 2:39 pm to MrLSU
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The culprit is that the GOP put up a shitty candidate
No.
Voters, particularly Trump fans, put up a shitty candidate after Rispone was able to burn down Abraham's vote when he went negative against him.
Those Trump fans got a rude awakening Saturday night.
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The LA GOP was no better than the Democrats who automatically assumed that white females & males would vote for Rispone at a 90% clip.
Dude, the LAGOP won damn near every race they were in a position to contest and even got rid of a few RINOs like Ryan Gatti for example and stopped GumboPac from getting a majority on the state supreme court with Will Crain winning.
Rispone lost because he ran a shitty campaign even with the LA GOP's help.
Case in point, the LA GOP had a brand new GOTV data model they built and gave to their political candidates up and down the ballot and they saw great success with it.
The Rispone campaign said no thanks and used an old data model from the Trump 2016 campaign and even shelled out money for it. 128K. I've seen this confirmed on Facebook from several strategists that I respect and know have inside knowledge of that campaign.
That is incompetence and arrogant hubris at display and that bubble was popped saturday night.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 2:41 pm to Upperdecker
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You’ve proven you don’t deserve an intelligent response, so I’m giving you something on your level
Sub-100 IQ response again.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 2:43 pm to Sentrius
You've been a voice of reason on all of this, but a lot of people on this board (who accused us of being emotional voters) are showing they don't want reason, they want to share their feelings with us.
To Quote Little Ben: facts don't care about your feelings. You backed a bad candidate because you believed a political ad. Now you have to sleep in the bed you pissed in.
To Quote Little Ben: facts don't care about your feelings. You backed a bad candidate because you believed a political ad. Now you have to sleep in the bed you pissed in.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 2:45 pm to Covingtontiger77
Hindsight says that Gwen Collins-Greenup should have hitched her wagon much closer to JBE. I am sure that she did not have the access to the amount of cash that JBE has. I agree, huge vote disparity.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 2:50 pm to crewdepoo
Many of my Republican friends at work voted for Edwards. There appears to be a disconnect from how many of us feel on this board and a number of other Republicans in LA. I think a lot of them felt Edwards is doing an ok job, so why change. Added to the fact that Rispone wasn't clear on what he wanted to do.
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 11/18/19 at 2:51 pm to SaintsnTigers1
When my wife voted she happened to do an iMessage which did a short video. When she texted me a pic there was no vote for governor but one for SoS. They rigged the machines to remove the vote. It was a vote for Rispone.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 2:54 pm to SaintsnTigers1
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There appears to be a disconnect from how many of us feel on this board and a number of other Republicans in LA.
Edwards had a shite ton of support on this board during 2015 and he was getting more upvotes than downvotes.
I didn't admit at the time but I knew Vitter was in trouble if JBE was getting that kind of reception on a conservative board like this. And that was correct when Edwards beat Vitter by 13 points.
Now in 2019, Edwards is persona non grata and universally hated on this board and you saw that play out in real time with JBE eeking out the win by barely two points thanks to high turnout and greater vote share in EBR and Orleans parish.
A lot of those republicans you're talking about were afraid to come to this board and express support for Edwards in 2019 and just simply voted.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 3:08 pm to Sentrius
I am not sure abandoning the GOTV model hurt Rispone all that much. That model helped maybe down the ballot and in some local races but for the statewide races I am not sure it was all that. Ardoin was going to win no matter what because no one cared all that much about that race bv and he was the name voters knew.
Rispone could not give a platform until the last week and even then it was only about a constitutional convention ( which I support) and he did not elaborate other than returning property tax rates to the locals which JBE"s adds effectively beat down.
Rispone could not give a platform until the last week and even then it was only about a constitutional convention ( which I support) and he did not elaborate other than returning property tax rates to the locals which JBE"s adds effectively beat down.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 3:10 pm to crewdepoo
Picking who to vote for was like picking which STD you want
Posted on 11/18/19 at 3:13 pm to RCDfan1950
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I can bear witness to one thing re immigration...I know young entrepreneurs who have a need for low-skilled/working people...and but for hungry immigrants who'll show up...they'd be out of business. Heard this for the last 25 years.
i bear witness to that every single day.
i would be out of business quickly without skilled immigrant labor
Posted on 11/18/19 at 3:17 pm to KiwiHead
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I am not sure abandoning the GOTV model hurt Rispone all that much.
Maybe, maybe not. However, having it in your possession could not hurt at all.
I's a point of arrogant hubris from carpetbaggers who truly thought they knew more and everything about Louisiana politics than seasoned politicos who's won races here before and won again Saturday night.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 3:47 pm to Sentrius
Told you a few months ago how this would play out mainly because LAGOPis not good in competitive races. Overall in individual district races the GOP candidate has pretty stout advantages and in a lot of lesser statewide races. But when it comes to governor it seems to have a problem especially when the Democrat is white... look at Blanco winning after a successful Republican governor in Foster . You would have thought Jindal could have walked in.
In Louisiana to be governor you have to project a certain level of self confidence and a willingness to show a common touch. Crazy thing is that Eddie Rispone had that if you know his story and John Bel Edwards came from privilege. Eddie could not convey to others how hard he worked to be sucessful.
In Louisiana to be governor you have to project a certain level of self confidence and a willingness to show a common touch. Crazy thing is that Eddie Rispone had that if you know his story and John Bel Edwards came from privilege. Eddie could not convey to others how hard he worked to be sucessful.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 3:51 pm to KiwiHead
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Eddie could not convey to others how hard he worked to be sucessful.
show me where he tried.
he campaign appearances were all behind closed doors at donor events, and three trump rallies where he spoke for about 15 seconds total
Posted on 11/18/19 at 3:58 pm to ragincajun77
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but he's transparently NOT what trump and rispone said he was, they completely mis-read the electorate here, and followed the "call the opponent silly names at a rally" tactic. it didnt work, and in a way i'm glad it didnt, as apparently there are at least some voters here who arent that stupid
Completely agree with you. Rispone fricked up launching dishonest ads against Abraham early on and then Trump's push to paint Edwards as some radical leftist was absolutely disingenuous. However, the crazy thing is that many voters bit that shite sandwich.
Like you said, there is plenty to criticize Edwards over...no reason to make up bullshitee.
Look at you two, riding your high horses into the sunset as if you really believe no one else is as perceptive as you are.
It's a 2-team contest and as usual, one team does everything in and out of the book to gain and retain control, while the other is half-filled with people who still think it's a gentleman's game.
"Oh no, a dishonest political ad?!!! I couldn't POSSIBLY vote for a politician who isn't 100% honest!" - loser Republicans
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