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re: Approximately 58,220 U.S. service members died In Vietnam To Stop the Spread Of Communism

Posted on 11/11/25 at 11:02 pm to
Posted by Raz
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 11:02 pm to
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Name all the specific policies that could accomplish these things. Then narrow it down to the things Trump can unilaterally do without Congress


It's his platform and his promises. His job to come up with the policies to accomplish it, not mine.

Even if he didn't accomplish half of it, he would still be doing fine if he was remotely concerned with America First and fulfilling his promises to us.
Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 12:32 am to
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An now the US is seeing STUPID parts giving in to Communism at the ballot box of all things.


FIFY
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 12:37 am to
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And today, we have two Vietnams, side by side, North and South, exchanging and working. We may not agree with all that North Vietnam is doing, but they are living in peace. I would look for a better human rights record for North Vietnam, but they are living side by side.


Lol huh????
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
15118 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 4:05 am to
You talking about Vietnam?
They’re unified today no?
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10111 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 6:13 am to
It’s horrifying that they died. But that’s not why they dies.
Posted by au4you
Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
3173 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 6:18 am to
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NY had over 3k people murdered by terrorists from the Middle East, yet here they are voting in a self avowed muslim socialist. We live in a bizaro world.
You should have seen who Trump hosted in the WH.
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 6:36 am to
God Bless those brave warriors.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:09 am to
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It's his platform and his promises. His job to come up with the policies to accomplish it, not mine.

Even if he didn't accomplish half of it, he would still be doing fine if he was remotely concerned with America First and fulfilling his promises to us.


You are listing problems that took decades to create. We cant just lower prices on groceries and housing. I really dont think people understand the state of our currency. We destroyed it. The ONLY reason we dont have hyperinflation is because the TRILLIONS printed are mostly sitting in the inflated stock market or are just resting in the accounts of the uber wealthy.

There is no magic wand to fix any of this. There is NOTHING Trump can unilaterally do, realistically, to have an effect on these things. If he just dropped all tariffs tomorrow....housing prices arent going down, grocery prices arent going down. Trump cant just erase 5 trillion dollars from our money supply.

I share frustrations with the Visas situation and foreign wars, but im not gonna pretend that there was any candidate anywhere that was gonna do everything I wanted.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
50076 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:22 am to
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Approximately 58,220 U.S. service members died In Vietnam To Stop the Spread Of Communism


They died because Lyndon Johnson and the corrupt Political Establishment had JFK, who didn't want to ramp up a needless war in Southeast Asia, assassinated in order to appease the Military Industrial Complex (There were other reasons, too, why JFK was killed. He was trying to reign in the intelligenceagencies, also).

But yeah, the radical Leftists in the Dem Party are definitely pro-Communist. People need to stop calling them Socialists because what Mamdani , Sanders, and others want goes way past Socialism. If they get their way, we will have Marxism/Communism and America will be over (which is really the ultimate plan, anyway).

Right, George and Alex S.?

Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8908 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:57 am to
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The didn’t die to stop communism. They died to protect American hegemony. “Stopping communism” is only the lie that that public was told.

protecting American hegemony over who exactly?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:06 am to
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protecting American hegemony over who exactly?


everyone on the planet
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117598 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:09 am to
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You talking about Vietnam?
They’re unified today no?


Yes, and they've moved away from communism. Small businesses do well without govt control. You can have a shop in a location that is not handicapped accessible. If you don't want crippled customers they can go someplace else.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8908 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:19 am to
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everyone on the planet

like that enormous superpower in Europe and Asia who happened to be communist?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57898 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:30 am to
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The didn’t die to stop communism. They died to protect American hegemony. “Stopping communism” is only the lie that that public was told.


Regardless of the true intent, those that died, at least most of them "thought" they were dying to stop the spread of communism. Even that is false, really. They died to save the lives of their fellow soldiers. That is the reality.

I think stopping communism is a noble and moral requirement for good people. EVERYONE knows where that road leads. Famine, starvation, violence, death, subjugation, totalitarianism. That happens 100/100 times. It MUST be stopped unless we want that here.

However, interprising globalists will use it to build their power base.

America really does need another revolution. We need to wrestle away the power from the fed completely. Bring back states rights, and let morality be the drivers of this country.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23264 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:45 am to
We elected a Muslim POTUS one year after war with muslims. This POTUS even has the same name as the muslim dictator we were at war with.

HUSSEIN!! John McCain did not want anyone to know it either. What a slug!!
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8908 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:19 am to
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Regardless of the true intent, those that died, at least most of them "thought" they were dying to stop the spread of communism. Even that is false, really. They died to save the lives of their fellow soldiers. That is the reality.

I think stopping communism is a noble and moral requirement for good people. EVERYONE knows where that road leads. Famine, starvation, violence, death, subjugation, totalitarianism. That happens 100/100 times. It MUST be stopped unless we want that here.

it's not a binary. yes, the purpose of the war was stop the spread of communism in southeast Asia. domino theory existed. were there ulterior motives and shadowy agendas behind the scenes as well? certainly. but we're talking about multiple decades of American involvement in Vietnam, so it's not as simple as "stop communism" even if that was the main purpose.

this super cynical approach to looking at American history where literally everything we have done as a nation was bad and had bad intentions is 1) not healthy and 2) just not true

read books about Vietnam. go read the Pentagon Papers. there is a TON of material out there outside of 5 minute youtube videos and agenda-driven documentaries by which you can educate yourself on the Vietnam War (that goes for any historical topic).


edit - BugAC, i'm not really directing this post at you, just used your post as a springboard for my soapbox
This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 10:21 am
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37364 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:26 am to
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Approximately 58,220 U.S. service members died In Vietnam To Stop the Spread Of Communism

All for nothing and a tragic waste of life.

Ironically enough, communist Vietnam is one of our best partners in the region.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143854 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:29 am to
The democrats are who sent guys that just graduated high school to Viet Nam to “defeat” communism.

Now communism is their platform.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13871 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:39 am to
The commies played the long game...
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117598 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:44 am to
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The democrats are who sent guys that just graduated high school to Viet Nam to “defeat” communism.

I cringe thinking about those LBJ addresses on T.V. "Mah, fellow Uhmuricans......................................................Ah cum to you today......................................with a heavy heart."
His speeches were only about 5 sentences but they took half an hour.
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