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re: Apalachee HS, Winder GA School Shooting
Posted on 9/4/24 at 6:25 pm to PurpleCrush
Posted on 9/4/24 at 6:25 pm to PurpleCrush
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Continue to hold parents accountable for Childrens actions like the mom/pop in Colarado that will make a difference.
As well as the dumb fam of the 11 year old tat killed the former mayor last week
You didn't answer my question about such a shortsighted plan.
Do you plan to hold parents accountable every time a child hurts someone, or only if they do so with guns?
If the latter, why?
Why should the be held accountable for that, but nothing else?
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Posted on 9/4/24 at 6:26 pm to the808bass
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Here’s a few things that are likely: Medicated by psychotropics Male (98%) Early childhood trauma Suicidality history I’d guess you could add: violent video game usage Unsupervised internet access Hardcore Porn consumption
You posted scant information to attempt to show we know a lot about school shooters.
I’ll just take the two Columbine shooters using your criteria.
Both white
Both male
Eric Harris had never been seen for mental health treatment. He had a budding Narcissistic Personality Disorder but kids under 18 don’t get those diagnoses because their personalities are fully formed.
Millions of youth are helped by psychotropic meds when properly prescribed and managed.
Neither Kliebold or Harris had early childhood trauma. All evaluations of the parents at the time and for years since have shown them to be excellent parents to these two killers and their other children.
It was a false claim that these two were bullied. They both had been engaged in school activities.
Harris was the leader who wouldn’t have acted alone. He would never be the suicidal type. Klebold was depressed and would have never done this alone. He was a follower.
I’m
not even going to address your other generalizations. My point is the Columbine shooters couldn’t have been any more different from each other. you use so many generalizations that if we suspected all youth in this country who met any 4 of your so called criteria we would have labeled the vast majority of the white male population.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 6:27 pm to wackatimesthree
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Do you plan to hold parents accountable every time a child hurts someone, or only if they do so with guns?
The civil courts can and do today when it's significant. That maybe a more appropriate avenue for this type of situation
Posted on 9/4/24 at 6:28 pm to oklahogjr
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A majority of immigrants are great law abiding citizens.
Then why are the affluent, extremely liberal, New England individuals trying to keep them away from their enclaves?
Posted on 9/4/24 at 6:29 pm to oklahogjr
So more illegals doesn’t mean more crime.
Interesting.
Interesting.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 6:29 pm to NorthTiger
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Millions of youth are helped by psychotropic meds when properly prescribed and managed.
Yet almost 100% of child mass shooters are on psychotropic meds.
AND, we know that those meds have side effects that include both suicidal and homicidal ideation.
Do I really need to give you a lesson on all birds not being penguins, but all penguins being birds?
Posted on 9/4/24 at 6:32 pm to PurpleCrush
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Continue to hold parents accountable for Childrens actions like the mom/pop in Colarado that will make a difference.
If my dad had been held accountable for the dumb shite I did when I was growing up, I'd have had to be raised by my grandparents because he'd have lived in jail. And then my grandparents would've been in jail too. Putting parallels in these logics seems pretty absurd, right?
My 5 kids all grew up knowing there were guns all over the house. They never went on murderous rampages. But you know what they DID do? They learned to shoot and respect firearms. One of them even decided to enlist.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 6:32 pm to oklahogjr
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The civil courts can and do today when it's significant.
Quite right, and good point.
But I'm pretty sure he's talking about criminal liability.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 6:40 pm to CleverUserName
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Then why are the affluent, extremely liberal, New England individuals trying to keep them away from their enclaves?
The same reason they don't want anyone from this board there ....it's purposefully homogenous.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 6:44 pm to wackatimesthree
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Quite right, and good point.
But I'm pretty sure he's talking about criminal liability.
Yeah most likely he is. Criminal liability for another person even your child just seems like a troubling precedent unless there was negligence or involvement. Let the aggrieved go after them civilly.
I think of it like alcohol if your parents let you drink and then drive away and you kill someone well they're negligent enough there to be liable. If my kid goes out somewhere and drinks without my knowledge and kills someone on way home I don't think I should be criminally liable but there are 100% gonna be civil liability there for the aggrieved against me
Posted on 9/4/24 at 6:48 pm to jimmy the leg
It’s easier dodging an SUV than trying to dodge a bullet.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 6:50 pm to Stonehenge
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It’s easier dodging an SUV than trying to dodge a bullet.
It's a lot easier to hit someone standing in the road with an SUV than it is to hit them with a gun.
So you don't have to be as good a dodger.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 6:57 pm to oklahogjr
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that's just one immigrant and his bad decision doesn't reflect on anyone but that immigrant.
Illegal alien.
He shouldn’t even be here.
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A majority of immigrants are great law abiding citizens.
They used to be. Perhaps it still is. However, with larger numbers, you have more bad apples…even if it is still a minority.
When you open the door for criminals, you get criminality.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 7:00 pm to Born2rock
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I guess killing students/kids is ok, so that you can own a gun
As long as it’s democrat kids….
See that was fun just throwing shite against a wall just to troll
Posted on 9/4/24 at 7:09 pm to oklahogjr
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The same reason they don't want anyone from this board there ....it's purposefully homogenous.
Homogenous.
yeah. That’s it. Homogenous. Posted on 9/4/24 at 7:10 pm to PurpleCrush
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Smart gun laws! Under 21 dosent need access to an AR, or even a 9m.
Then they don’t need to vote before 21 either.
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This kid was 14, hold the parents accountable then
You going to start putting hood rat parents in jail too? Sure you are
This post was edited on 9/4/24 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 9/4/24 at 7:12 pm to NorthTiger
Eric Harris most certainly had been seen for mental health issues or he wouldn’t have had a Luvox prescription.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 7:22 pm to the808bass
Colt Gray, the shooter. Black male. Weapon reportedly a shotgun.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 7:23 pm to oklahogjr
I bet you never get upset at black children dying due to gun violence in urban America. Probably due to your systemic racism
Posted on 9/4/24 at 7:23 pm to oklahogjr
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Sort of like when little girls are raped and killed by illegals more often because of the leftist lust for “asylum seekers”?
that's just one immigrant and his bad decision doesn't reflect on anyone but that immigrant. The problem is the person not the system. A majority of immigrants are great law abiding citizens.
The majority of legal immigrants are law abiding citizens. The reason being they are carefully vetted. Illegals by definition are not law abiding you leftard.
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